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I believe the community had expressed a lot of valuable ideas here, so I will keep the post. But I am locking the thread because it's just not information given in good faith. That's not to say that the points are all wrong, these can be debated. And we did debate. But the infographic itself is border to being just propaganda against a distro that serves well to a lot of users (this is a fact! even if me or you think those users could be served better.)
why is this infographic AI generated and where are the pixels
I find it rather interesting that the same author wrote a new article about how to install Ubuntu 24.04 LTS the day after writing about Ubuntu's trust problem, but without mentioning the previous article or any point he previously made...
"author"
I've come to learn that it might be AI writing these
100%... I just had a look through the other articles too and they reek of AI.
Im pretty sure these articles are written with AI. He already uses AI for generating images for the articles too. Like this paragraph from one of the articles.. Who the fudge writes like this?
Text in image:
This single question filters out script writers from script engineers. Most beginners write scripts that silently fail. Production scripts at companies like Stripe or Palantir use strict error handling from line one.
automatically attaching snaps to apt is pretty much the one reason why I'll never use Ubuntu. and now I find out here that they put damn ads in the terminal for "Ubuntu Pro"? oh get fucked Canonical.
Friends don't let Friends install Ubuntu.
My main home server runs Ubuntu - I installed it 15-20 years ago and it's grown into a monster. I've been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian. Have to up the priority of that project.
Debian is so nice as a server OS. It's also a great alternative for WSL if you're forced to use a Windows computer.
I already run Debian on my desktop and 3 other small servers. I just haven't moved over my main one yet because of the complexity, and procrastination.
And they've tied the dependency tree together such that you can't disable them without entirely breaking updates.
If anyone else would rather read text as text: https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/
Thanks :)
Honestly, I use Ubuntu and everything mentioned here are non issues. Except forcing Snaps when using apt.
I've never noticed ads for Ubuntu Pro in my terminal so it can't be that intrusive.
When I install software, I use the KDE software center that let's me pick which one I want to use between Deb, Snaps or Flatpak.
Firefox snap doesn't start as slow as mentioned. At least not anymore.
The malware issue can happen with flatpaks as well and even native packages. In fact there have been more security issues introduced in more bleeding edge distros like Arch and Fedora that didn't affect Ubuntu. So...
Anyway. It's really not that big a deal except for forcing Snaps when using apt. But that can be disabled too. So again, not really a big deal.
The ads in terminal show when you use ssh or only command line for the system. It happens when you log in so you mainly see it if you use Ubuntu server or use ssh to get into your computer a lot.
Maybe it's because I'm using Kubuntu and not the pure Ubuntu? I swear I've never seen those in my terminals. Even when I ctrl-alt-f3 or ssh.
The article: https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/
Thanks. I have to wonder if people became allergic to posting text that can be resized to my screen.
Although the site is also shit, on the phone the text column is like twenty characters wide.
Ironically, just read an article recently about this exact issue.
The article from LinuxTeck is AI generated. Not unlikely the itsfoss was used as inspiration or whatever since ot was posted the week before.
No prompt. No warning. No consent.
This was not a bug. It was a deliberate product decision.
Yeah... too many rhetorical devices. A human writer would notice that it's getting a bit excessive.
the malware one happens in most repos at some point, but the rest is why i dont use ubuntu.
Not this kind of malware specifically. Their snap repo has a policy of allowing fully automatic app submission as long as the app is sandboxed. This led to multiple people submiting modified crypto wallet apps under the branding of the original trusted devs, without any challenge on Ubuntu's part. You could also put up a Librewolf version that leaks all the passwords you type in, or a Signal without encryption - ✨ endless creativity ✨. This specific attack is harder on Flathub as all apps have to be checked by the moderation team, and they should ask question if your Librewolf package is built from your own repo.
Company gonna company. Switch back to Debian and realize most of what Ubuntu did was copy Debian and allow for non free drivers.
Ubuntu was always just a broken Debian with marketing. Just like Mandrake and Red Hat. Except it was successful marketing this time.
There were a few good things. LTS and PPA.
The best part of Ubuntu was improving Debian. In the beginning, Debian was a bit ugly and difficult. Ubuntu was competition, and perhaps resources (IDK) directly or indirectly. Debian is much easier to use than it was when Ubuntu was new.
Ubuntu is taking the RedHat approach (over complicating so that one must buy the support).
Strong agree. I use a derivative that blocks snaps instead of direct Kubuntu now, and it wasn't Just because of the snaps.
I use a derivative
Without Ubuntu Pro subscription the entire Universe repository does not receive any security updates by Canonical:
https://canonical.com/blog/ubuntu-pro-enhanced-security-and-manageability-for-linux-desktop
You should consider switching to an entirely independent distribution that does not lock security updates behind a paywall, perhaps something based directly on Debian or Fedora.
Update: Correction. While you do get five years of security updates for Universe on an Ubuntu LTS, those are updates done by the ubuntu community, not canonical. To get Universe security updates from Canonical, you do have to sign up to Ubuntu pro, which can be done without any payment, but as I describe in my original comment, does require creating an account.
While Canonical deserves the criticisms leveled by op (that I agree with), it's also incorrect to say that they lock security updated behind a paywall.
Anyone that does use Ubuntu gets security updated until they stop supporting that particular release version, which iirc is for six years (I may be wrong, thus is from memory).
If you want extended security updates for a specific version of the os, you can elect to sign up to Ubuntu pro without paying any money. You do have to make an account, and if you so choose you can populate the account info with garbage info and a disposable email, and you'll get extended security updates for that release version.
Thanks for this. I started Linux with Ubuntu, just because being the most popular distro, I figured it would most likely to be compatible with everything. I was just about to make a post asking why the Linux community dunks on Ubuntu, but this graphic explains a lot
is it just me or does especially the text read AI-generated?
100% is. :)
As a user of hyphens, I have to change up how I talk in case it looks like AI (AI text also use the longer hypen, but some humans do too, as I found out talking to a friendly human on Lemmy a few months ago.
The whole "verified facts, no FUD" title is exactly the kind of shit an LLM would write. (And it'll still make up a ton of "facts", of course)
It 100% is...
It's also using unicode emojis for Linux distros (that don't really make sense) instead of their logos. The whole thing is likely AI generated.
This style of website design is almost certainly AI made
I don't understand why go though all the trouble of leaving windows, which let's be honest is not as friction free as Lemmy likes to claim, and then land on Ubuntu.
I have to thank them for the free DVDs tho, they opened the world of Linux for me as a kid.
I left Windows because I didn't want to update to 11. I went to Ubuntu simply because I used it once 10 years ago and it seemed ok. So far my experience has been great. I have 0 technical skills but I was able to make everything work, I only had to google about flat-packs. My husband is technical so he set up access to our home system. I am not moving from Ubuntu now as I have everything set up just as i like it and everything I want/need just works. Again, I am not technical so everything I need is just a browser, email, discord, and steam.
Honestly, if someone I know would ask for a Linux recommendation I would recommend Ubuntu. Simply for how simple it is that you never have to touch a command line or terminal and still just use the basic apps you want. I think its an amazing low bar, low effort entry to Linux and there's nothing wrong with that.
That's understandable, you expected Ubuntu to be simple and it was, you had a need any it was fulfilled.
The thing is, any other debian would be as simple as Ubuntu. The "simplicity" comes from having all the programs already installed not from being more or less technical.
arch
bow and arrow
is this from another dimension?
Is .gif different there?
All symbols are wrong, but in ways that oddly make sense:
I don't know if what I'm going to say is correct, but this smells like LLM shitting emojis.