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In Latest Rebuke of Trump and Hegseth, Pope Says 'God Does Not Bless Any Conflict'
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Edit: I was wrong
How is the Pope making official statements ("defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals" pretty much sums up all pontifical statements that aren't a direct response to world events) concerning faith/morals which is destined to catholics anything "rare"?
BTW you paraphrased in a way that makes it less legible (IMO), here is the original:
Source (Vatican 4th session, chapter 4)
We don't have the official statements made by Urban II When he called for a crusade, I'd argue it's a bit of a stretch to say that he didn't bless that war to some degree, but if you someone wants to argue otherwise I guess we'd have to agree to disagree.
On the other hand, pope Leo made this statement:
After digging I'll concede the point.
My misunderstanding was on the "he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole church", specifically "defines", which is not simply, as I understood it, "makes a statement concerning X"
Apologies accepted, and to be honest I'd rather have a tense argument than to be ignored, especially when it's a good opportunity to learn 😁
Wishing you all the best
Edit: I was wrong
Speaking infallibly can be done a number of ways, including the one which I literally quoted, from the Vatican council. This is not external information, this is catholic doctrine. You can find it on the official Vatican website, though only in Latin: https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/i-vatican-council/documents/vat-i_const_18700718_pastor-aeternus_la.html
It is possible to establish doctrines a number of ways, including through long collegial processes as you describe. Those are simply not the only ways, and an ex-cathedra declaration is the prerogative of the pontiff alone.
What specific point are you disagreeing on with me here? How is the declaration from Pope Leo not ex-cathedra per Vatican I?
Which is funny to the audience because everyone knows that's not how banking works. It took me a while to find out what exactly was missing because the definition - which is a translation of the original - is full of "term of art" hidden jargon. Easy traps for outsiders. I'm not trying to get out of being wrong btw, just saying that there is probably a reason this is a common misunderstanding and not a matter of being dumb.