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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Nah he's right. I'm in a friend circle that includes a lot of content creators and the burnout is so palpable, they can't even take real holidays because if they do the algorithm fucks them over. Then the guy in the group who's effectively a Janitor is the happiest and well adjusted and he loves his job.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are any of your content creator friends trying to get other jobs?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, most of them are actually artists primarily, but getting a stable job in art is quite hard.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Best of luck to them, then.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)
  1. The person in OP’s picture could retire today and never work again. So clearly it’s not “sucking out his soul” since it’s entirely voluntary.

  2. He’s also talking specifically about streaming which is the absolute lowest common denominator of online content. Like people just flip on OBS and record themselves playing games or eating or reacting to other content, literally just things they would be doing anyways even if they weren’t recording. No one is owed the ability to make money streaming and it’s hard to find a “real job” that provides less value to society than streaming.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
  1. The person in OP’s picture could retire today and never work again. So clearly it’s not “sucking out his soul” since it’s entirely voluntary.

I mean, debatable, hassas is like early 30s and if we make the big big assumption he has $1m in actual savings, then he would have to live for another 50 years just to make it into his 80s which would come out to about $20k/year not considering investments or inflation or anything. So not realistically enough to retire on.

Even if we assume he can retire to a life of luxury, does it being voluntary mean it can't be a soul sucking? Like my country has a good benefits program and I'm disabled, so I could live the rest of my life on benefits if I wanted to, does that mean I can't complain about my job and that it can't be soul destroying?

The effort of actual streaming is only part of the job and it's still tough to engage with people and be entertaining for hours and hours every day. Like have you not been in a social situation where you have to put on airs? It's exhausting.

[–] Bleys@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

hassas is like early 30s and if we make the big big assumption he has $1m in actual savings

Bro please Hasan was in the top 5 most hours watched on Twitch last year. Twitch leaks from 2021 (5 years ago when he was “smaller”) show he made $3 million just from ads, not even counting any other sponsorships or deals he had.

And he’s got you out here thinking that he “might, just maybe, if we really stretch belief” have $1 million total net worth. It would be comical if it wasn’t so sad.

This is exactly why streaming is so disgusting. You’re carrying water for a guy who is a multi multi millionaire because you have a parasocial relationship with him and think he’s your friend.

[–] boomzilla@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

AFAIK he doesn't run AD's. Watching him for a year now. I've never seen any sponsored content. Maybe he gets money from the politicians he interviews on stream but I doubt it. He only invites those who he has a serious interest in growing their platform. He doesn't seem to sell out. He regularly mentions his work is solely sponsored by his viewers. I don't claim that he isn't a multi millionaire but I don't see how this invalidates his positions or work.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Okay, firstly I need you to understand I have not watched a single second of a Hassan stream and basically everything I know about him I have learned involuntarily. So your personal attacks about my "parasocial relationship" are entirely unfounded.

But again as I said. Even if he does have enough to retire in luxury why does that mean his job can't be would destroying? Hassan especially receives an enormous amount of death threats, hate and harassment and streaming in general is very draining.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s surprising that more political science majors that want to make a difference to society aren’t working at an Amazon warehouse instead of streaming.

[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I can absolutely see this. Viewers are expecting something new every time they check your page. If you aren't active for a week they may stop checking.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

LOL, they can't take holidays? I can't either, show me who can afford holidays... I haven't been on holiday in a decade. At least they can pay their bills ffs, unlike me.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I get PTO and my job is maybe two steps above flipping burgers. I ain't going overseas but I can deffo take a vacation. If you're in a red state or otherwise victim to similar ratfuckery, my condolensces friend.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

???

All my other friends? I'm on a very average wage and can take holidays, I have a friend's that on like 1k/year over minimum who's going to Japan later this year.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Scream out of touch louder. In the US (where Hasan is so its the pertinent example) federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour, thats 16,080 a year, add 1000 and you're saying your friend can afford to pay all their bills and a trip to Japan? The state with the highest minimum wage is Washington at 17.13 hourly total annual being 35,630, add 1,000 36,630. You're saying thats not only a livable wage in that state but one high enough to afford a trip to Japan? Your friend is putting it on a credit card or they don't have any of the bills associated with being an adult.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Let me get this straight, you're saying that because some people hate their jobs, nobody is allowed to say a different job sucks? Or is it that nobody is allowed to enjoy their job?

And you're saying that because some people are struggling financially nobody else is allowed to be doing okay financially and enjoying the fruits of their labor?

Get some perspective bro. Read the room!

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yes thats exactly what I'm saying and I mean it

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Dude you badly need to spend some time offline and touch some grass and talk to some new people. Go have some fun in the real world!

That line of thinking only comes from being in an echo chamber for too long

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I love that no matter what I say in shitpost there is a shockingly high percentage of people who take it as genuine. This is the best place I've ever found to bait/troll.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I love that no matter what I say in shitpost there is a shockingly high percentage of people who take it as genuine. This is the best place I've ever found to bait/troll.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

...lusional? Whatever the opposite of delusional is

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Americans still don't understand there are other countries that exist.

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Boooooo you stink. We are talking about hasan and you are trying to apply whatever your country (which is undeniably a significantly smaller number of people) to all countries by making the statement you've made based on your sub 1% incredibly high level of privilege. Your niche example can't apply to the other 7.5 billion at least humans.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

which is undeniably a significantly smaller number of people

What if I'm actually from China?

[–] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Well china doesn't have a national minimum wage so I have no idea what you'd be referencing when stating 1000 above minimum. Highest city minimum wage set is Beijing, its 4 USD an hour. Not sure how that would pay all your bills and afford a vacation to Japan. Japan by the way has a minimum wage of around 2 times that. So, the money would stretch significantly shorter outside of just accommodations. You're also ignoring the rest of what I said so you continue to stink. Your stance was that anyone making "average" wage can afford international travel and vacations.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So where do you think all the Chinese tourists come from?