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Socrates would say, and I would agree, that by following the rule we have already agreed to it.
Chomsky would disagree with manufacturing consent.
Chomsky thinks that the west shouldn't send aid to Unkraine to fight Putin's fascist Russia. Noam can go punch sand
And Socrates believed in slavery. There's a problem with expecting a purity from your philosophers.
don't forget that Ghandi was a Chomo.
There's a difference between a philosopher having caused harm in the past vs them causing harm now
That's definitely debatable, depending which philosopher you asked.
and he was on the Epstein plane.
Chomsky can eat a dick for the company he keeps
Chomsky is the reason we have LLMs.
I mean if you follow under threat you haven't consented to any meaningful degree.
Pretty hard to put threat of force behind an unspoken rule.
I mean just ask people who have been socially rejected/ isolated for breaking those rules. There's definitely a threat
There is a wiiiiide stretch of sky between "do this or I'll hurt you" and "I don't want to be around someone who acts unsocialized".
They didn't say anything about force.