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[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

None of the devices I bought for it talk to the internet! Home assistant can control and even update the Shellys completely over the local network.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 16 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

As it should be

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 hour ago

Remember Home assistant =/= smart home nonsense

I dont need some AI assistant to automatically manage my thermostat, I just want to be able to control it all using my own local server.

[–] hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Any suggestions for someone tech savvy enough to run a proxmox server for a handful of services, to get started with home assistant?

Can you replicate something like a Google home with voice commands?

I may or may not be getting a new house soon. I'm good with electrical to replace switches with wireless ones. But what do you get? Where do you start and where do you end? What about the WAF?

I saw LTT did smart switches in his house and it was a mess of incompatibilities.

Any good resources? I don't even know what I don't know haha

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Look into ZWave and ZigBee mesh networks. I run Home Assistant with a couple hundred devices and integrations. ZWave tends to be my hardwired switches, and ZigBee tends to be my battery operated motion sensors, remotes, etc.

Personally, I run Home Assistant on its native HAOS on a raspberry Pi. In addition to Home Assistant, I have lots of automations running in Node Red, a no/low code orchestration addon.

For voice control, I’m playing with the Atom Echo.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Couple hundred?! Are most of those lights or something? Forgive me I’m totally ignorant about home automation.

Is it a hobby to you or have you found significant time/energy savings? Or both?

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago

This video is a good starting point. If you're already running proxmox you're definitely ready. 👍

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I've been looking for some smart outlets, and it seems impossible to discover which ones can be used with normal well-known protocols and which can only be used through a phone app locked into a cloud service.

[–] dion_starfire@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago

Check out the new IKEA Matter over Thread stuff. They have two smart plugs (an indoor single plug and an outdoor double plug). You can flash one of the esp-idf example images to an ESP32-C6 and plug it into your HA server to turn it into a Thread Border Router for under $10. Everything on Thread uses a fully local encrypted mesh network that by default has no Internet access (leave NAT64 turned off in the HA border router add-on).

P.S.: Make sure to update the firmware on the devices (which HA can do), as several don't act as routing end devices until after the first upgrade.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Z-Wave & Zigbee devices.

My favorites are made by Aeotec & Zooz.

Local control, most use very little power and can either be plugged in or use a 1-3yr battery you swap out sparingly, and they communicate on a separate set of channels from your internet at low-latency so they don’t eat up internet bandwidth.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

So, if I'm reading things right, anything that runs on Z-Wave or Zigbee will necessarily run locally, because those are mesh protocols?

Anyway, thanks a lot. Those are really simple keywords to check.

[–] Flying_Hellfish@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

The Hook Up had a great video on this. He compared a lot of different options and ranks them based on functionality with and without internet.

https://youtu.be/wnFoQ84SRL4

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

Yep.

My favorite smart outlet switch though was recently sold out and it’s an Aeotec smart switch 7. Zooz makes something similar though I think.

I’ve got it set up on Home Assistant so that whenever certain devices in my home are detected on or off via watt usage minimum changes I monitor on those smart switches, it toggles the Lutron Caseta (best smart light control there is) lights via commands for different rooms in my house.

I also have things like waterproof outdoor gate sensors made by Zooz that are smaller than a single stick of gum where the small flat watch battery in it lasts for almost a year and it will alert me when the gate opens or closes, but only when I’m a certain distance away from the house’s geofence I’ve set up.

You will also need an overall little USB stick to connect to your Home Assistant server device (like a NAS or Raspberry Pi) to control everything, but there’s one that’s made by Aeotec that does both Zigbee and Z-wave long range protocols. Z-Wave LR (long range) works really far too… like I think around a mile potentially, if you have a nice clear line of sight signal.