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It's because ‘Rockit’ was made by Bill Laswell, Michael Beinhorn, GrandMixer DXT and three other guys on turntables. Hancock basically turned up at the end to play some synth lines.
Laswell and Beinhorn were in the band Material, and turned it into a production outfit, plus Laswell was a producer at the label Celluloid at the time, which label was a pioneer of hiphop. He also participated in the New York no-wave jazz scene as musician and composer.
Hancock was in his early forties, and his career was getting stale. His manager, twenty-five years old, pitched the idea of making a track to both him and Laswell. Hancock was taken by Laswell to hear some popular djs, but still required more coercing by the manager.
Material's early stuff might be closer to ‘Rockit’, although it's more disco-funk. Dunno about Celluloid's output, as I'm not really into old hiphop. Laswell used scratching in some of his genre-clashing projects well into the 2000s, e.g. in the ‘Axiom Sound System’ concert with Tabla Beat Science and a bunch of other folks (including Grandmaster DXT). Laswell also co-produced and played bass on the rest of Hancock's ‘Future Shock’ album and the next two albums ‘Sound-System’ and ‘Village Life’, and did other collaborations with him.
(Yall might be familiar with Time Zone's ‘World Destruction’ with Afrika Bambaataa and John Lydon; and Material's ‘Seven Souls’ with the voice of William S. Burroughs. Both of these were featured in ‘The Sopranos’, and both were produced by Laswell, just like PIL's album ‘Album’.)
My favorite from a him was always Chameleon from exactly 10 years earlier. That’s the song I hear when Herbie is mentioned.
I had a jazz teacher say that Herbie Hancock would play straight up jazz until he ran out of money, and then release a funky track like chameleon to rake in the big bucks, and then go back to jazz
Seems like a good gig if you can get it.
I'm more partial toward 'Watermelon Man' reinterpretation from the same album.
Whoa, that's some good insight. As a fan of that New York mutant disco/funk stuff I've always liked Material. Never knew they were involved with that song. Cool.
I've been a fan of Laswell for about twenty years, and it's fascinating to dig through his catalog and see how easy production comes to him, how he always had his fingers in a lot of projects and how he gathered a whole bunch of other musicians in his orbit. ‘Future Shock’ also has Nicky Skopelitis, who did guitar on some of Material's albums and was in The Golden Palominos with Laswell, and whom Laswell pretty much dragged from one project to another for decades.
Eraldo Bernocchi is another illustrative example. He had an ambient project with some dudes, released something like four records, and then did a collaboration with Laswell, inevitably falling into his gravitational sphere. After that all of Bernocchi's later releases in the project and under his own name were clearly marked by Laswell's methods and the library of sounds and effects, even without latter's involvement.