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Plenty of protestant denominations have lost the plot on the whole "protesting" bit. Joel osteen and Kenneth Copeland's churches are considered to be in the protestant vein of christianity and their whole thing is flaunting wealth and having big, expensive churches. Whether they should be considered protestant is for the various flavors of protestant to decide. As far as I'm aware, there's no broad consensus that defines protestantism besides "likes martin luther", and "hates catholics*"
They just aren't christians. Literally the thing that Jesus died for was him driving out the people buying and selling shit in the temple. They use his name and likeness to sell shit when he literally had a sermon saying that every single rich person deserved to burn in hell (a camel going through the eye of a needle is impossible, and yet easier than it is for a rich man to enter heaven). And they especially cannot claim to be part of anything Martin Luther did. They treat his list of complaints more like a god damned to-do list than anything.
🤷 that's a christian-to-christian thing to determine. I'd love for that to be the case, but seeing as most Christian organizations are perfectly fine with the status quo, I don't see that changing any time soon. Also, Martin Luther was a trash bag for plenty of reasons, I don't see any point in seeking to align oneself with a raging misogynist, antisemite, and author of "Against the Murderous, Theiving Hordes of Peasants", which was written in response to the German peasants war. Valid criticisms or not, the dude sucked and bred a religious movement that was just as bigoted, bloodthirsty, and money hungry as the catholics he was protesting
I could be wrong but aren’t those considered Non-denominational these days
Despite being called "non-denominational", non-denominational christians are a broad group of independent churches and spiritual movements that fall under the protestant tradition. They aren't a part of larger, more organized subsect of protestant like the baptists or lutherans, but their non-denominational-ism refers to not being a part of/neatly defined by an organized denomination of protestantism. Non-denominational Christianity can even be a nucleation point for new denominations, like the burgeoning evangelical movement that's become a driving force in the fall of the american empire