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[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He is unfortunately correct, if the AI generated actors are convincing enough then majority of people will not care. Just like it is with CGI, people complain about CGI in movies but as examples they can only list movies with very poor CGI because our brain ignores good CGI.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Good thing they won't be convincing enough. The preview for every AI actor I've seen has been laughably bad. Mostly because AI has trained itself off of decades of mediocre people using social media to "act" for ad placements while forcing a fake charismatic demeanor on everything else for community building. AI actors have the depth of a porn star convincing you their work is enjoyed more than their paycheck. Except AI performs that way for every basic human emotion.

AI isn't even intelligent my dude. All forms of it just predict what best fills in a blank, and the sum total of every bad actor on social media is the largest pool it has to pull from. Expecting good or meaningful performances from AI actors is hilariously misguided. At best we'll get perfect looking humans with flawless facial symmetry that have the emotional depth and inflection of text emojis.

That can't carry a 2 hour film, let alone any content that requires emotional complexity. At best we'll get movies that are just 2 hour reaction videos in what AI thinks humans do in certain situations. Baby born = happy face. Baby died = sad face. Is about the depth you can expect from these actors.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Models can be retrained, there’s a certain website out there that prides itself in having more than 300k movies available for download, if the AI companies get their hands on it then there’s enough training material for them and the outcome will likely be good enough for the average Marvel movie.

Also, they won’t generate a 2 hour movie, they’ll likely do 1 scene at a time and piece it together. So in theory they can carry even a 10 hour movie if the plot for it exists.

[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Ah yes. Please tell me how real your totally made up assumptions are on how AI will develop.

if the AI companies get their hands on it.

AI already had their hands on the sum total of everything humans have created for the last 10,000 years and the best it can do is sometimes generate something mediocre 1/100 times. This mediocre result can't be modified, or improved in anyway. And you want me to believe adding a single other library of 300k films will be enough? That's a bucket of water in an ocean of information it already has access to and uses poorly. It will not make AI magnitudes better than it is now, the technology itself has plateaued due to its own architecture. AI Models can get better, yet results still cannot be modified, duplicated, or improved.

Which in an industry where tiny creative iterative improvements is literally the key to making something great, you want me to believe a machine that is incapable of that can somehow reach the same quality result?

You are dillusional. This tech is a dead-end creatively and it's an embarrassment that you think it can grow by impossible leaps and bounds that exist purely in your imagination.

the outcome will likely be good enough for the average Marvel movie.

Dude. Marvel isn't even good enough for the typical marvel movie these days. You think the guys who made 26 blockbuster hits can be replaced by AI when they can't even successfully replace themselves with other humans? Marvel can't even make a movie to save their own ass these days, I doubt AI has a shot.

1 scene at a time means AI has results with inconsistent locations that change as they leave the frame, inconsistent costumes on actors, inconsistent background SFX, inconsistent lighting, inconsistent cinematography. Etc etc.

AI doesn't know how to keep the color temperature between indoor lighting and outdoor lighting consistent. So it has no control over style, rather just a single scene's lighting. So it can't be a cinematographer. It can just guess what each scene looks like and you better hope shot 5 is the same 5400 degrees Kelvin white balance as shot 3 or that scene is going to look like a fucking amateur shot it once edited together.

AI can't emote. Period. In any way that makes a human interested instead of angry. Acting is a range of emotions, displayed in ways uniquely and handled by each actor. An AI can give you 100 emojis options to have appear on a face in a scene, and none of them consider the emotional arc and narrative of the film, because this is one scene being generated out of 73. So AI can look and sound like Natalie Portman, but be limited to acting like her in Star Wars episode 2: Attack of the Clones. Just constantly one emotion full throttle or another to the point it's hilarious an Oscar winning actress gets completely forgotten about in her Star Wars appearances.

AI can't be consistant. Period. So sets will change. Props will change. And "plot holes" or "set mistakes" will become common as AI can't remember what something looks like when it leaves the screen. It'll be like accidentally having a Starbucks cup in that one episode of game of thrones, but for every episode of ever, instead of just the one in season 8. Imaging that seasons mistakes but done in every shot and every scene because the robot dreaming up the production cares even less than the directors did making that season.

People like you think AI can make a movie because you've never made anything creative yourself to sell to the public. It's not easy. And the public doesn't just lap up bullshit. There's trends and tastes and opinions that every creator whose ever made something has had to navigate to become successful. Just because an AI can get criticized instead of a human doesn't mean that AI can get better as a creative generator. Only humans can do that through constant iteration. AI, even at its best, still needs 100 tries to get something alright. An expert filmmaker needs 1. Because they've made thousands of mistakes before, and learned from each. Something AI literally is incapable of and will never be able to replace. So every creative human work that is built atop the journey of failure and self improvement can never be emulated by a machine that fully lacks that mechanism. At best, it can kinda copy it 1 out of 100 tries.

[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Love how Tony Starks voice comes out of Doctor Dooms mouth.

You think Robert Downey Jr. Is just gonna talk through his role as Doom like he did here?

I'm pretty sure he'll do some acting instead.

So counter-counterpoint. Doom should sound like Doom. Not like a copy and pasted RDJ from Iron Man 1.

The fact he just talks normally kinda proves my point about AI sucking ass.

Here's that character in the comics. His voice is lettered in a distinct way that the comics even reference and make fun of.

Something that AI couldn't reference for accuracy so didn't, and the result is fucking hilarious 😂 if that trailer was real, Marvel would be made fun of even more than it is now.

Also, people exploding into green mist is Power Rangers 2000 level of SFX bad. Not impressed at all by the powers Doom is supposed to have in this trailer if his biggest threat is turning you into a fart cloud.

[–] SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Counterpoint to your counterpoint: this was done by one dude, on (likely) consumer level hardware. From that perspective - and in light of the prior framing - this is actually impressive AF. Or depressing AF.

2 years ago, we couldn't get Will Smith eating spaghetti right; now we're doing dangerously convincing fake trailers.

PS: I thought the voice work was pretty good here but YMMV.