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Movie director: ‘Because of AI, I no longer need actors anymore’
Film producer: ‘Because of AI, I no longer need writers and directors anymore’
AI Companies ‘Because of AI, I no longer need movie studios anymore’
Public: ‘Because of AI, I no longer need to bother with movies anymore’
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The fact that they are quoting a director whos biggest claim to fame was 30 years ago is very telling of his present state of mind. His best ideas are stolen, he hates copyright because he lacks any talent. He cant direct, but wants to with limited effort.
Ive worked with directors like this before, they use the word "homage" for every shot they take, they let the AD do all the actual directing work, and they sit behind the monitor looking at their cellphone during a take, and bitch occaisionally that they are running out of daylight while contributing nothing to the production besides their name and some bullshit personal relation from their childhood to the story being told in the film during a promo interview, a script which they didnt even write, they were just available when the studio called them to pump out another turd of a film. And in order to get people in the seats they claim its a "ground breaking cinematic experience" or some shit. Taking alllllllll the credit while being the smuggest piece of shit loser you have ever met. They also almost always cheat on their wives with some head of departmemt or cast member or at least try to. And they fucking LOVE blow..... and shitting on every technician they can, outsourcing blame for their own ineptitude whenever possible.
Theres a really good example of this type of person in the show "brand new cherry flavor"
We all have our names for them, but my favourites are: dip shit moron, piece of shit loser, parasite, and of course, cunt.
A director would be easier to replace.
I remember when they had humans would have flying cars by now. So nope. Humanity will not jump to this so soon. Besides I bet this idiot hasn't even generated a single image in AI. Can't even imagine how much effort it would take for consistency for a full length movie.
but most people can tell the difference if one is made by AI, only conservatives cant because they believe AI. just like how cheaply movies and shows use CGI over practical effects, some mcu movies and shows, other superhero movies like the flash, and then theres invincible where its PNG all day.
AI generated content vidoes is very noticeble, likely would cost them more to use then CGI down the line.
Dude from India generated an AI women to raise funds for medical school and MAGA thought it was real and paid her thousands lol ☠️. Conservatives will believe in anything that fits their narrow worldview
Directors must be salivating at the idea of actors who never say “I’m cold” or “that’s dangerous” or “you’re a hack.”
Or "Pay me!"
Yeah, just like all movies are 3d now.
Good luck with that, I guess
Most people won't watch AI films without real actors and actresses
I’m not sure that’s true. In day to day life, I find the majority of people will accept whatever the media tells them to accept.
The normalization of AI in the past couple of years has been rapid. Even my 70 year old aunts are delighting at AI-photoshopping themselves into flowers and revealing outfits. Prospective employees hand in chatbot-created resumes and cover letters, masking the fact that their spelling and grammar is godawful.
The media will tell us to celebrate the end of overpaid actors and influencers, and many people will be pleased to see them knocked down a peg.
I pretty much turn off anything that has AI generated content in it and file it away as blacklisted.
this includes directors, studios, online creators, etc.
He is unfortunately correct, if the AI generated actors are convincing enough then majority of people will not care. Just like it is with CGI, people complain about CGI in movies but as examples they can only list movies with very poor CGI because our brain ignores good CGI.
Good thing they won't be convincing enough. The preview for every AI actor I've seen has been laughably bad. Mostly because AI has trained itself off of decades of mediocre people using social media to "act" for ad placements while forcing a fake charismatic demeanor on everything else for community building. AI actors have the depth of a porn star convincing you their work is enjoyed more than their paycheck. Except AI performs that way for every basic human emotion.
AI isn't even intelligent my dude. All forms of it just predict what best fills in a blank, and the sum total of every bad actor on social media is the largest pool it has to pull from. Expecting good or meaningful performances from AI actors is hilariously misguided. At best we'll get perfect looking humans with flawless facial symmetry that have the emotional depth and inflection of text emojis.
That can't carry a 2 hour film, let alone any content that requires emotional complexity. At best we'll get movies that are just 2 hour reaction videos in what AI thinks humans do in certain situations. Baby born = happy face. Baby died = sad face. Is about the depth you can expect from these actors.
Models can be retrained, there’s a certain website out there that prides itself in having more than 300k movies available for download, if the AI companies get their hands on it then there’s enough training material for them and the outcome will likely be good enough for the average Marvel movie.
Also, they won’t generate a 2 hour movie, they’ll likely do 1 scene at a time and piece it together. So in theory they can carry even a 10 hour movie if the plot for it exists.
Ah yes. Please tell me how real your totally made up assumptions are on how AI will develop.
if the AI companies get their hands on it.
AI already had their hands on the sum total of everything humans have created for the last 10,000 years and the best it can do is sometimes generate something mediocre 1/100 times. This mediocre result can't be modified, or improved in anyway. And you want me to believe adding a single other library of 300k films will be enough? That's a bucket of water in an ocean of information it already has access to and uses poorly. It will not make AI magnitudes better than it is now, the technology itself has plateaued due to its own architecture. AI Models can get better, yet results still cannot be modified, duplicated, or improved.
Which in an industry where tiny creative iterative improvements is literally the key to making something great, you want me to believe a machine that is incapable of that can somehow reach the same quality result?
You are dillusional. This tech is a dead-end creatively and it's an embarrassment that you think it can grow by impossible leaps and bounds that exist purely in your imagination.
the outcome will likely be good enough for the average Marvel movie.
Dude. Marvel isn't even good enough for the typical marvel movie these days. You think the guys who made 26 blockbuster hits can be replaced by AI when they can't even successfully replace themselves with other humans? Marvel can't even make a movie to save their own ass these days, I doubt AI has a shot.
1 scene at a time means AI has results with inconsistent locations that change as they leave the frame, inconsistent costumes on actors, inconsistent background SFX, inconsistent lighting, inconsistent cinematography. Etc etc.
AI doesn't know how to keep the color temperature between indoor lighting and outdoor lighting consistent. So it has no control over style, rather just a single scene's lighting. So it can't be a cinematographer. It can just guess what each scene looks like and you better hope shot 5 is the same 5400 degrees Kelvin white balance as shot 3 or that scene is going to look like a fucking amateur shot it once edited together.
AI can't emote. Period. In any way that makes a human interested instead of angry. Acting is a range of emotions, displayed in ways uniquely and handled by each actor. An AI can give you 100 emojis options to have appear on a face in a scene, and none of them consider the emotional arc and narrative of the film, because this is one scene being generated out of 73. So AI can look and sound like Natalie Portman, but be limited to acting like her in Star Wars episode 2: Attack of the Clones. Just constantly one emotion full throttle or another to the point it's hilarious an Oscar winning actress gets completely forgotten about in her Star Wars appearances.
AI can't be consistant. Period. So sets will change. Props will change. And "plot holes" or "set mistakes" will become common as AI can't remember what something looks like when it leaves the screen. It'll be like accidentally having a Starbucks cup in that one episode of game of thrones, but for every episode of ever, instead of just the one in season 8. Imaging that seasons mistakes but done in every shot and every scene because the robot dreaming up the production cares even less than the directors did making that season.
People like you think AI can make a movie because you've never made anything creative yourself to sell to the public. It's not easy. And the public doesn't just lap up bullshit. There's trends and tastes and opinions that every creator whose ever made something has had to navigate to become successful. Just because an AI can get criticized instead of a human doesn't mean that AI can get better as a creative generator. Only humans can do that through constant iteration. AI, even at its best, still needs 100 tries to get something alright. An expert filmmaker needs 1. Because they've made thousands of mistakes before, and learned from each. Something AI literally is incapable of and will never be able to replace. So every creative human work that is built atop the journey of failure and self improvement can never be emulated by a machine that fully lacks that mechanism. At best, it can kinda copy it 1 out of 100 tries.
Counterpoint:
Love how Tony Starks voice comes out of Doctor Dooms mouth.
You think Robert Downey Jr. Is just gonna talk through his role as Doom like he did here?
I'm pretty sure he'll do some acting instead.
So counter-counterpoint. Doom should sound like Doom. Not like a copy and pasted RDJ from Iron Man 1.
The fact he just talks normally kinda proves my point about AI sucking ass.
Here's that character in the comics. His voice is lettered in a distinct way that the comics even reference and make fun of.
Something that AI couldn't reference for accuracy so didn't, and the result is fucking hilarious 😂 if that trailer was real, Marvel would be made fun of even more than it is now.
Also, people exploding into green mist is Power Rangers 2000 level of SFX bad. Not impressed at all by the powers Doom is supposed to have in this trailer if his biggest threat is turning you into a fart cloud.
Counterpoint to your counterpoint: this was done by one dude, on (likely) consumer level hardware. From that perspective - and in light of the prior framing - this is actually impressive AF. Or depressing AF.
2 years ago, we couldn't get Will Smith eating spaghetti right; now we're doing dangerously convincing fake trailers.
PS: I thought the voice work was pretty good here but YMMV.
Remember when every movie just HAD to be 3D?
I remember it like the Metaverse. Or NFTs.
it's been the same since cinema existed. Hollywood finds a trend that is popular and then runs it into the ground. 3D films. Star Wars clones. Slashers and Action movies in the 80s. Die Hard Clones, Disaster Movies, and Teen movies of the 90s. Hell back when Charlie Chaplin was making movies studios were pumping out knock offs like you wouldn't believe. the "Beach Movies" of the 60s. The Western. so on and so forth. And of course recently adaptations of 80s toys and comics.
So yeah there will be a few AI only movies for awhile until the audience eventually gets sick of them and then Hollywood pivots to a new trend.
Nobody's going to know who this guy is in 2 years. I already don't.
I didn't realize he was that guy. He made a few good movies 20 years ago when he was young and rebellious, but he's been a nobody for a very ling time.
More laughs for me.
I'm still convinced these statements will age like milk.
In a few years people won't care if their milk is AI, I heard it from an expert whose salary depends on him taking this position
What the hell? Not so long ago, he was strongly opposed to digital SFX because he wanted movies to capture reality. Did we swap Kassovitz for an evil clone?
In this interview, Kassowitz misses the point entirely. He talks at length about how "AI steals, but it's fine, we all steal, great art is made by stealing..." my bro we are aware. That is not the issue at all. (I mean, that's one issue)
We (humanity) want to make art, we want to act, to paint, to sing, for fuck's sake. Delegating creation of all things is missing the point because that's not something you want to automate, unless you have some vested interest in getting rid of the "middleman" (=the artist).
Furthermore, it's giving up the political power of art to corporations : manufacturing consent will never be as easy as with generative AI.
Once again, Blade Runner wasn't supposed to be an inspiration. Fuck off to mars, Kassowitz
Any idea how much compute power its gonna take to make a feature film worth watching? lol
I'm still grumpy about Special Effects. Give me a real stunt driver and practical effects please! ...And real actors.
Remember how all these shitty directors were predicting that people wouldn't care about practical effects anymore after that advent of environmental CG in the 90's?
People notice. Yes we care.
It amazes me when people advocate for their replacement. Every single person in all industries should be saying "fuck ai"
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If this were true, we'd see a lot more animation, the reality is actors are important to the creative process otherwise and the director having to micromanage ai (or let it just produce averages) is only good for producing slop (which admittedly is a lot of what Netflix puts out).
2 years is wishful thinking. There is enough space in entertainment for AI actors and human actors. That being said, I think AI actors will dominate here.
The average movie watcher is already a fan of a fake image of entertainers whether they are on screen or not. AI isn't replacing your best friend, it's replacing someone you have never met and will probably never see in person anyway. Actors will have to start building deeper connections with their fans if they plan to stick around.
Reminds me of a fun thriller by Dr. Chuck Tingle
Had some fun takes on the idea of "AI" acting
Nobody, not one. We are unanimous about this. Clearly this will hold up. Despite all the naysayers commenting here, soon you too will assimilate. We look forward to your joining us soon
Slop gonna slop doesn't mean anyone will consider it valuable or artistic, they're talking about emoji movies and voiceover crutches and low quality children's programming that's already mostly animation anyways. Nobody's using slop shop v3 to make citizen Kane or the seventh seal
