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Many people on lemmy.ml deeply respect and admire authoritarian governments and organizations.

Iran, China, North Korea, Soviet Union...

The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.

Iran hangs homosexuals. Iran shot 30,000 people in less than than 2 weeks. The Soviet Union had to build a fucking Iron wall to prevent people from escaping. The Soviets lied about the Chernobyl nuclear explosion. China censors the internet. China wants to eliminate Islam. North Korea is a totalitarian hellscape. Watching anime is a crime.

Why is lemmy.ml so fascinated with authoritarians?

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[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol nothing inherently capitalist about performing productive labor and you're definitely not contributing anything of value here

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doubling down, eh? Your implication that the value of a person is tied to productive labor is deeply capitalist. One can contribute to the betterment of the world without having a “job”; it’s called volunteering. Try contributing something of value without expecting compensation. Hell, try doing it even when doing so is a burden that expends personal energy without direct reward to yourself but makes existence better for something else.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Doubling down on being 100% right lol, there's no implication I'm stating plainly that you specifically are unemployed

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. You did not plainly state I was “unemployed”. Plainly stating “you are unemployed” would have been you stating, plainly, “you are unemployed”. You used “get a job”, a well established insult that insinuates the person you’re saying it to is unemployed (regardless of whether it is known if that person is employed or not), and connects human value to productivity through employment. That a person only has worth if they’re productive is the commodification of human existence. It’s the kind of shit libertarians use to mock the homeless. The fact that you would even consider using unemployment status as a means of insulting someone tells me everything I need to know about the quality of your character.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Run out of words to defend your idea that unemployment is a disgrace and that value is found in having a job? The wealth class loves it when the middle class regurgitates their work=value message and treats the poverty class like the punching bag the middle is for the elites. You are, without a doubt, the dumbest capitalist parrot cosplaying an internet tankie I have ever interacted with online.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Employment is a relationship between two parties regulating the provision of paid labor services. Usually based on a contract, one party, the employer, which might be a corporation, a not-for-profit organization, a co-operative, or any other entity, pays the other, the employee, in return for carrying out assigned work. Employees work in return for wages, which can be paid on the basis of an hourly rate, by piecework or an annual salary, depending on the type of work an employee does, the prevailing conditions of the sector and the bargaining power between the parties.

Literally the foundation of capitalism you utter mook.

And that song you posted- “I got to go back to the house, hear that woman's mouth, preachin' and a cryin', tell me that I'm lyin' about a job”

Thought some boomer “my wife’s a nag” misogynist humor would strengthen your argument?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you put this much effort into finding a job you'd have one by now

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And if you put a quarter as much effort into educating yourself about the fundamentals ML as you do memeing, you’d know that a better line would have been “go contribute your labor to society”.

I had a feeling your idea of how a “job” works was rooted in the capitalist method, where a instead of labor an employee sells their labor-power to an employer and receives a wage as compensation, but using job/employment interchangeably confirmed it. You’re advocating for a system of designed dependence, where people sell their capacity to work and the employer extracts more value than they compensate for. Any equality between employer and worker is a deception.

But since memes seem to be your reading level:

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wages are the price of labor power. I will continue to live as I please and contribute my labor to causes and efforts I deem worthy of it.