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I got Plex set up for my media server literally the day before they hiked the prices. I was weary about the $150 lifetime and couldn't afford the new price when they changed it so I went to jellyfin.
Turns out jellyfin was everything I wanted and free. Bought 5 years worth of unlimited hosting and a domain name for less than a month of Plex and now I'm well on my way to a pirate media empire.
Just wish I had anyone other than my spouse to share if with... Or that I could figure out fucking MusicBrainz...
Hey I’m just learning about Jellyfin and have one question that maybe you have a take on.
How do we know that Jellyfin isn’t just one step behind Plex on the enshittification scale? Is it structurally different somehow? Open source or something?
There was a time when Plex was the bees knees and everyone loved it, and now they’re putting th screws to us. Why should we believe another group won’t do the same?
Jellyfin is FOSS. Taking a single step towards the Plex route will be going against the ethos of Jellyfin as a whole. It is community owned - rather than private, and if there are unethical practice's involved, then people can and will jump ship forking the whole project at nearly 1:1 scale.
Because of the way jellyfin is built and the underlying philosophy. It can't enshitify that easily as Plex - it will need a massive community effort to change it.
It is also useful to read on the history of jellyfin as it does highlight some useful pointers.
That's all correct, but.. we aren't absolutely in the clear. JF could absolutely be forked, DB changes enacted, security added, but you also need all those client devs to come along.
It's not quite like most Foss where a couple people could jump in and do a better job, JF has a LOT of moving parts supported by a number of individuals.
Also, Plex controls the login/authentication through their portal, and can also receive data back from your host regarding the content being shared/watched.
Jellyfin is 100% locally configured accounts
Jellyfin itself is Emby. Emby was owned by a company and it enshittified at the speed of light, and that's when Jellyfin was born (by forking the last open source version of Emby).
In the time it took you to write this comment you could have gone to the Jellyfin website and read the first 12 words on the page:
I’m never going to apologize for asking questions on Reddit or Lemmy. This is a place for talking to people. In the time it took you to chastise me you could have stuck your thumb up your ass 17 times.
Meanwhile, I got a perfectly good answer from someone else. Thanks for nothing.
I think it just shows you actually don't care. I think some of the things you asked could be interesting if you had done any of your own reading first and had some context, but what you did instead was ask us to tell you what to think.
You can go do that on Reddit, or do you think that's where you are now?
I quite like that people ask simple questions like this. Sure, it could have been looked up really quickly, but it adds to the overall thread here. People reading this with no prior knowledge can browse through the comments and absorb more information.
Gatekeeping lemmy. Classy.
Nah I was making fun of them for initially saying they wouldn't apologize for asking questions on Reddit, when on Lemmy lmao
My bad I use 3rd party app clients for both Reddit and Lemmy and they look much alike.
It makes no difference though, because Lemmy is a place for talking to people too.
When you already know the answer it’s very easy to “ackshually” someone and tell them just how they could have googled it in a second.
But when you don’t know what you don’t know, it’s not so simple. For example: when my question is “how do we know Jellyfin will not eventually go down the path of enshittification as well?” It doesn’t occur to me to just start reading their homepage and see if I stumble into an answer. Excuuuuuuuse me.
Anyway…
But, my friend, it is in the article. We're not hanging out chatting and the idea of Jellyfin came up. We're in a discussion about the article. You showed up to the book club and asked us to tell you about the book because you didn't read it.
Surely no one has ever shown up at a book club having missed a detail.
You obviously started this to try to feel superior to someone. How do you feel now that you’ve been downvoted? Let me guess - still confident in your superiority.
That’s your wank dude, and I’m done participating in it. Fuck off now bye.
Sorry for being an asshole about it.
I just never know with yall if my snarky shit will get +50 or -7.
It still bothers me how much of the comment sections here are full of people who didn't read the articles but clearly I'll need to find a softer touch :)
Hope you ended up giving Jellyfin a try lol
If you want to take a look at yourself and profit from this exchange, here’s how.
Consider that there are two types of people in this world.
Some people get excited when someone asks about a topic they know: they’re happy to show off their knowledge and help someone who’s interested in what they know.
And then there are people who look down on others for asking, and think that everyone should soldier out of ignorance all on their own by googling and going to the library. No asking others! These people self appoint as gatekeepers of the entire community’s time.
You were #2 here. Why? Stop talking about what frustrates you in other people and ask why you couldn’t be the first kind of person.
You remind me of a guy I once knew. I asked if I could borrow his cable crimper over the weekend and he thought about it, sighed, and said no -because the only reason he owned one is that no one was around to loan him theirs. So he was going to do me a favor and make me buy my own.
It was such an unnecessary, grim, douche bag little speech he gave me. He was a bitter fuck and he decided to pay his bitterness forward. I now own a cable crimper which I haven’t touched in 20 years.
Don’t be that guy.
Ah but that's the thing, I did let you borrow the crimps, with a little lecture attached.
It's tough because obviously we don't know each other. I don't know if you have real interest or just wanted someone else to do the thinking for you. You don't know if I don't want to help or if I was just being an ass.
So I appreciate you actually trying to give real advice. I should maybe think twice about my comments like that. I will give some advice back.
I would love to see more people like you do a little bit of background reading and a little bit of critical thinking on their own before asking others how to think. Not more than a minute or two, maybe not even more than just reading the article to see if the answer is in it. You're already on your phone or PC, the information is very accessible.
Instead of "How are they any different? Why won't they just do the same thing?" it could be "I get that they're open source, but couldn't it just get abandoned anyway? That doesn't seem any better than enshittifying, so how could I tell if that is likely?"
Well, I’m back to telling you to go fuck yourself. Shame.
As in you set it up outside your home server for only that? What's the hard drive capacity there? Can you share a link to this offer?