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Do people genuinely think someone running for a party that backed a genocide can be any good and that should be voted?
we have to compare her to those she runs against, friend. We can't just create an ideal candidate.
You sound very young.
Yes we can we live in a democracy
You sound very brainwashed
Riiiiiigghht. Are you going to break that news to the people of Tennessee, Florida, Texas, Missouri and North Carolina?
A country where voting districts, governers and court positions are all politically motivated, you do not have a democracy.
Idealism shows you a goal, pragmatism helps you get there.
What do you propose?
Usually this is where I would make a long winded comment on replacing First-past-the-post voting with a voting system that allows more then two parties to exist without a spoiler effect... but that time has long since passed us by.
Good luck out there yall.
Germany and New Zealand both have a Mixed Member Proportional voting system but centre right coalition governments with a strong far-right influence currently hold the majority in both those countries. Things would undoubtedly be worse with FPTP, but proportional voting is not a magic bullet either.
Nothing is stopping either party from implementing that, if they care to do so. So I guess some pressure to do so would be nice.
So you’ve got nothing, got it.
There are other parties than red and blue, instead of talking and giving exposure to the lesser evil candidates start talking about the actual good alternatives.
Right but how many years of greater evil parties are you willing to endure while you establish this non-evil party?
you establish other parties and candidates by talking about them and giving them exposure
If you have a better idea that can actually gain some momentum I'm sure people would be thrilled.
If you are concerned with momentum you should endorse someone who is on the fediverse and not on meta or x. On proprietary, centralized, for profit platforms the momentum is controlled and scripted.
So vote for nobody?
How’d that work out for everybody 18 months ago?
Who are you going to vote for at the republicans primaries?
So, we shouldn't vote is what you're saying?
You shouldn't vote for people who endorse a genocide or who are part of organizations that endorse one.
Ah, so I just shouldn't vote. That'll fix this.
there are more than two parties you can vote for
Both parties are pro genocide either here or abroad, but one at least has a sizeable wing that is actually opposed to foreign wars instead of just paying lip service to a supposed world order based on rule of law.
Vote for the candidate not the party.
i don't support a genocide but...
No, for the same reason there's not a good republican there's no a good democrat. These parties are guilty of supporting a genocide among other hundreds of crimes they have backed. Vote and support someone else.
I expect that US politicians who actually want to serve the public find themselves in the same predicament as voters who want to support good things for humanity.
The two-party situation is not only an emergent property of our voting system, but it is entrenched culturally as well.
So if you want to do good things in a government position, do you take up the label of a coalition that has plenty of shitty members and bad policies, or do you wear your independent badge with honor in obscurity?
Oh and the other party is WAY WAY FUCKING WORSE in every conceivable way and is not an option. Even the worst aspects of your potential party pale in comparison to what those other guys do on those same policies.
And the best part is that those way way fucking worse evil guys consistently get half the votes!
"obscurity" is the result of these two parties and the government spending billions of public money in propaganda.
AOC isn't on the fediverse and use X and meta
Yeah exactly. It's all part of the known existing machinations of the system that the candidate is trying to be a part of. The media will sideline you for corrupt reasons and millions of voters who agree with you will blow you off for dumb reasons.