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I find this move concerning, and wish that the Founder had looked for a new CEO that shared his values rather than a Private Equity and Mergers Expert.

Furthermore, the change to the GRIT motto is worrying. Trust is useless without Transparency when it comes to code and security.

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 63 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Same question here. What are the best alternatives?

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 96 points 2 days ago (5 children)

KeePassXC is the best FOSS option, but you'll need to figure out self hosting if you want to sync the database between devices.

[–] M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As the database is encrypted in your device, you dont really need to self host. A keepass database in the Google cloud is not really problematic, although you should still choose a more private cloud provider.

[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Syncthing is probably a simple fix.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Assuming you have a degoogle'd phone. The syncthing-fork devs announced that they aren't going to certify for Google Play when that's made a requirement in a few months

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

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[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ugh, I forgot about this. Aren't you still going to be able to install apps from third-party marketplaces? I thought the plan was just that the phone was going to hassle you and require multiple hoops.

[–] punkibas@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Yes, that's the plan

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think other apps will require ADB to install

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After initial wait period of 24 hours, which is intolerably dumb, you don't need ADB.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

They should interview me when I make a purchase and determine the likelihood of me falling for a scam where a family member will save me if I just had an extra day

[–] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I use both KeePassXC and Syncthing for passwords. Works fine.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

And you can use a keyfile separate from the database for even more security. If the database is backed up on Google Drive and the keyfile is saved on a USB or in a (non-Google) email somewhere for the rare times you add a new device, your passwords should be safe even from keyloggers or Google themselves.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

make sure to use post-quantum encryption algs

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Which algs would that be? ed25519 okay? Is that even an encryption alg? I'm not too hot with encryption.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

or use syncthing, no hosting experience required

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Syncthing on the phone seems to use up a lot of battery, though.

[–] michaelalf@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

If you don't need real time sync you can disable background use of the app. That's what I've done, and I just open the app when I need to update. Probably a smarter way to do it, but it works for me.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

It doesn't need to be complicated. I use syncthing to synch them. It's pretty trivial. You just tell it what folders to synch, between which devices, and it'll synch whenever it's running.

post-quantum encryption algs

I use the built in ftp sync option with any file explorer that makes an ftp server on my phone.

[–] tremble5218@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I found the easiest way to sync is to use rclone. This way you can use any cloud provider like Google Drive or OneDrive or DropBox. First create the rclone remote for your cloud provider using rclone config. Second step is to create a second remote using the encryption option (menu item 16), choosing an appropriate path <first remote>:<path to directory>. Upload your KeepassXC database to this encrypted remote using rclone copy.

On Android you can use the RoundSync app from F-droid to configure the the same remotes, then create a task to copy or sync from that encrypted remote and a trigger to run that task on a schedule. Overall, this one-time setup works really well for me. This is my backup in addition to using Bitwarden for several years. Bitwarden is not going to get my money any more.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
[–] refract@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

But you still use the official BW client apps, correct?

Unless you forego usage of the clients and access Vaultwarden through the browser (removing accessibility and convenience especially on mobile), it is not an e2e replacement solution.

Are there any alternative FOSS clients/apps that work with Vaultwarden?

Edit: I see further down that the official client is open source, and would get forked in the event of any fuckery. So I'm sticking with Vaultwarden + Official client app approach for now.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I just use the webapp UI and don't bother with the clients/extensions. Easy enough to just log in, copy/paste from there.

But yeah, the official client (and probably browser extension as well) would probably be forked if/when needed.

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

What about passkeys?

[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Coincidentally, I moved to self-hosting Vaultwarden last night, which is open source but compatible with Bitwarden. If you want a simple transition and are capable of hosting it yourself, that would be my recommendation.

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 11 points 2 days ago

I've been hosting it for a couple years now and question why it took me so long.

[–] h54@programming.dev 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that isn't self hostable.

[–] h54@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago
[–] jtrek@startrek.website 16 points 2 days ago

I use keepassxc. It does the job.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

KeePassXC + Syncthing to sync passwords across devices

[–] xnx@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

Alias vault seems the most feature complete and self hostable https://www.aliasvault.net/