this post was submitted on 16 May 2026
80 points (97.6% liked)

Europe

11176 readers
698 users here now

News and information from Europe πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)

Rules (2024-08-30)

  1. This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
  2. No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
  3. Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
  4. No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, islamophobia, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism. We follow German law; don't question the statehood of Israel.
  5. Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
  6. If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
  7. Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in other communities.
  8. Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
  9. No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
  10. Always provide context with posts: Don't post uncontextualized images or videos, and don't start discussions without giving some context first.

(This list may get expanded as necessary.)

Posts that link to the following sources will be removed

Unless they're the only sources, please also avoid The Sun, Daily Mail, any "thinktank" type organization, and non-Lemmy social media (incl. Substack). Don't link to Twitter directly, instead use xcancel.com. For Reddit, use old:reddit:com

(Lists may get expanded as necessary.)

Ban lengths, etc.

We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.

If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 7 or 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.

If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the admin that applied the rule (check modlog first to find who was it.)

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 17 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Doubling down on oil and gas infrastructure makes you LESS stable and resilient though? This just makes the problem worse.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, they don't actually use it themselves. So the correct thing to say is doubling down on oil and gar makes them richer, fuck everyone else stupid enough to buy

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Climate change fucks them too, though. But yes, they'll be richer while getting fucked.

[–] Bob@feddit.org 14 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Would you rather have your oil and gas from the US, Russia, or the Middle East? The EU is still reliant on oil and gas at the moment, and Norway is the EU's most reliable supplier by a mile. You should work hard to become energy independent, but that can't happen over night.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The EU is still reliant on oil and gas at the moment

Despite having had a literal lifetime to change that.

[–] Bob@feddit.org 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Strategic autonomy didn't seem like a pressing issue to me until Russia invaded the Ukraine, to be honest. I'm sure a large part of the population has been similarly complacent.

[–] RalfWausE_der_zwote@feddit.org 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Reliance on soviet / russian gas and oil wasn't a bug, it was a feature designed with the thought that it will stabilise relations. Of course, nobody has envisioned the stupidity of current russian leadership, soooo....

[–] plyth@feddit.org -1 points 7 hours ago

nobody has envisioned the stupidity of current russian leadership

In 1997, George F. Kennan (the architect of Cold War containment) deplored enlargement as "the most fateful error of American policy in the entire post-Cold War era," warning it would inflame Russian nationalism, empower hardliners, and inevitably precipitate conflict along Russia's borders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_opposition_to_NATO_enlargement

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

You should work hard to become energy independent, but that can't happen over night.

The only thing holding back alternative energy is people refusing to let go of this dogma.

So, you say if we only wish hard enough wind turbines and solar parks will suddenly spawn in all suitable areas? That's amazing!

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 1 points 7 hours ago

Dfq is 'alternative' energy? Hydro got memory now?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 15 points 21 hours ago

not if you're the one selling oil and gas