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[–] NehpetsDoom@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Y'all ate slop so they slopped it up even more.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

God forbid a gamer enjoy playing a video game and hope a studio learns from their mistakes.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

What mistake? They made decisions that resulted in more money for them and learned that they could get away with it for years

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That mistake? You might want to take a look at recent Bungie news if you think that their mistakes didn't cost them their fan base.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The people in charge don't care, they already have the money

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Are you trying to make a point or just trolling? The only thing I can think of is you are trying to make the case that it is the fault of the players and not the studio that the game didn't survive.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fool me once shame on you, fool me consistently for a fucking decade and yeah actually that's on me

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think there might be a reason why people continued to come back to that game and play it? Maybe that it might be fun?

It is possible to enjoy something and acknowledge the fact that it could be much better.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly, you're willing to accept shitty business practices as long as the game is still "fun", so why are you at all surprised that management responds to that by doubling down on shitty business practices?

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Because short term profit milking is extremely shortsighted and as is evidenced by LITERALLY the article we are commenting under.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Again, management doesn't care, they already have the money. They can and will rip the copper out of the walls and bail to the next company, lather rinse repeat. This isn't exactly a new phenomenon either, people hijacking companies and running them into the ground for massive short-term profits has been going on since before either of us was born.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

So, the way you see it, people shouldn't engage with things they enjoy if there is a greedy entity on the other side?

Do you know how many hobbies that covers?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is that this isn't surprising in the least and that you were and are directly incentivizing this behavior by not having a fucking spine and continuing to patronize these companies despite their shitty behavior so your incredulity makes no sense, and also that you're kinda stupid for needing that explained this goddamned thoroughly

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

you were and are directly incentivizing this behavior by not having a fucking spine and continuing to patronize these companies despite their shitty behavior

Way to judge somebody you know nothing about!

I dropped the game a while back BECAUSE of their refusal to learn from their mistakes. That doesn't make me stop wishing that they would choose to save their IP before it died.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I know that you kept playing after noticing the shitty business practices because you gave me that infornation yourself just a few comments ago, that is literally exactly the right amount of information to judge you for this specific behavior, and more importantly it's not a moral judgement it's an explanation of reality under a capitalist system which you seem to be struggling to wrap your head around

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

With that being your stance, I hope you stop enjoying every single thing you currently are. Because there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

You can probably still touch grass without feeling guilty, actually you probably should anyway.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was created as a live-service game. It was never not a mtx fest.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Correct, but as is the case with Warframe, which has so many more premium currency purchases you CAN make than D2, it is possible to have a live service game and also make something fantastic that players can enjoy for decades.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Correct me if I'm being ignorant here but I don't know if there's ever been a single company that's pulled itself out of a long line of degenerate business practices

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The two off the top of my head would be No Man's Sky and R6 Seige.

No Man's Sky: https://imkingginger.substack.com/p/the-decade-long-journey-of-no-mans

Not sure how R6 is doing currently, but at one point they had a decent resurgence after they finally doubled down on improving the game.

These don't match the exact scenario of Bungie, but they work as evidence that a studio CAN create something great out of something mediocre.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

To be fair to Hello Games I'm pretty sure that Sony breathing down their necks for the release of No Man's Sky really screwed them over during initial development. They had to rush big time and it was a huge increase in scope from their previous titles. Definitely not trying to undermine them though, NMS is a pretty great game now, especially compared to how rocky the start was.

As for R6 I remember hearing pretty recently there was a huge hacking incident that lead to players getting free shit en masse and effectively flipped the game economy on its head. I don't know how they handled the fallout from that but considering it's Ubisoft I doubt they learned anything substantial. Though if there's one inadvertently good thing they did it was kicking off the Stop Killing Games movement by shutting down servers for The Crew.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Destiny was the tits though. I didnt play much of 2 because life got in the way, but the core gameplay was satisfying and silky-smooth.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago

Some of the best PVP I've ever experienced, I still miss it