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[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Zelenskyy didn't cancel elections, though. They're legally forbidden in Ukraine during martial law, which is only still in effect because Russia is still invading. If anyone canceled Ukrainian elections, it's Putin because the choice for Ukraine was either submit and lose elections permanently or resist and enact martial law, losing them temporarily.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Zelenskyy didn’t cancel elections, though. They’re legally forbidden

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, not every nation wants to deal with securing elections in an active war zone, especially against an opponent heavily incentivized and willing to put their thumb on the scale however they can.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah not every nation wants to do that. Some nations are fascist dictatorships.

Put that right next to 'two things can be true at once' in the library of trying to conjure thoughts from nothing but pure passive voice.

especially against an opponent heavily incentivized and willing to put their thumb on the scale however they can

Sorry you're not allowed to have a democracy because someone might try to convince you to vote against me.

Love me, I'm a liberal.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Russia is clearly after the Donbass, not all of Ukraine. Elections will persist even after the almost certain conclusion, that being full annexing of the 4 oblasts. This is the sensible outcome, considering western Ukraine coup'd the president supported by the Donbass region in a Banderite takeover:

Since the Banderite coup in 2014, Ukraine has been in a civil war where Kiev has been ethnically cleansing the Donbass region. The Minsk agreements were both tanked by Ukraine and the west, meaning diplomatic solutions to the Civil War were tried, and failed.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If Russia is clearly only after Donbass, why did they open by trying to seize the capital?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn't seriously try to take the capital, and even if by miracle they did, the purpose is to end the war then and there. Right now they are focusing on attrition, wearing Ukraine down slowly.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it is so, why are they bombing and loosing personnel in Sumy or Kharkiv?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you think in war you only attack what you directly plan on taking?

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And you think Russia would have just traded it back for Donbass? Lol. Lmao, even.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

No I think they would and did use it to apply political pressure and relieve military pressure from other fronts by drawing enemy reserves. "Trade it for the Donbas" what are you nine?

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

My point is that Russia definitely wanted it, and they definitely wouldn't have come off of it if they conquered it. Pretending it was just a feint or that they didn't really want the capital is just whitewashing Russia's war of conquest.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 1 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

This is you deciding what you want to be true in the face of all evidence to the contrary to preserve the very simplistic good guys/bad guys narrative you prefer.