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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Russia is clearly after the Donbass, not all of Ukraine. Elections will persist even after the almost certain conclusion, that being full annexing of the 4 oblasts. This is the sensible outcome, considering western Ukraine coup'd the president supported by the Donbass region in a Banderite takeover:

Since the Banderite coup in 2014, Ukraine has been in a civil war where Kiev has been ethnically cleansing the Donbass region. The Minsk agreements were both tanked by Ukraine and the west, meaning diplomatic solutions to the Civil War were tried, and failed.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If Russia is clearly only after Donbass, why did they open by trying to seize the capital?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't seriously try to take the capital, and even if by miracle they did, the purpose is to end the war then and there. Right now they are focusing on attrition, wearing Ukraine down slowly.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If it is so, why are they bombing and loosing personnel in Sumy or Kharkiv?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think in war you only attack what you directly plan on taking?

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip -4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And you think Russia would have just traded it back for Donbass? Lol. Lmao, even.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

No I think they would and did use it to apply political pressure and relieve military pressure from other fronts by drawing enemy reserves. "Trade it for the Donbas" what are you nine?

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 hours ago

My point is that Russia definitely wanted it, and they definitely wouldn't have come off of it if they conquered it. Pretending it was just a feint or that they didn't really want the capital is just whitewashing Russia's war of conquest.