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[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nonviolence has never resulted in positive social change. Every single nonviolent movement mentioned in every history textbook you've ever read existed alongside a violent one that actually got shit done, the only reason any ruling class ever conceded a goddamn thing was the threat of force, and the reason they don't mention it in those history books is specifically to create more people like you who pose no threat to their rulers

[–] iceonfire1@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

All positive change is accomplished through violence? That's a pretty extreme view.

Just curious, what would you say was the violent group responsible for the end of the Delano Grape boycott, after which union members won better working conditions and higher wages?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Pointing to any part of US labor history as an example of the success of nonviolence is fucking hilarious, every single strike that wasn't ready and willing to commit violence got fucked inside out by pinkertons. You are historically illiterate.

[–] iceonfire1@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Thanks, that was about as insightful as I assumed you'd be.