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The Mandalorian and Grogu has lowest box office opening for a Star Wars film in Disney era
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I wonder why people are still watching this stuff. Maybe it is the crowd that wants to be able to say "I've seen all Star Wars movies" as the sole motivation.
Star Wars stopped being interesting a long time ago.
With the exception of Andor, which is one of the best shows of the last decade.
I'll second this. Andor is incredible.
I was irrationally angry when George sold his IP to the Mouse. The original trilogy and expanded universe from my childhood is still my Star Wars.
Disney was the wrong choice.
Rogue One worked. But they got greedy.
Rogue One was leaps and bounds above the sequel trilogy but I would still say it's not a great movie. Once it gets up to speed and the whole cast has been properly introduced, it's fantastic, but it takes so much of the movie until it gets to that point. Even as a fan, the first half of the movie is a slog where the main character has very little agency or drive, and they're basically just being brought along instead of driving the plot. It's a movie that, in my opinion, starts poorly and ends amazingly.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’ll fight a bitch that claims anything other than Andor is the smartest and most watchable serialized offering on any streaming medium, with arguably the most compelling characters in the entire Star Wars arc outside of the original trilogy (hat tip to @furzegelo and @OldQwertybastard).
Thank you one and all; now I’m off to go assault dickhead @crt_alt_esc for not knowing his/her (meager and uninformed) place.
Have you seen Andor?
I watched a random clip on youtube: a ship with lateral lightsabers cutting TIE fighters. I'm not watching more of it.
I don't think that's a good scene to judge it on, personally.
As someone who hates modern star wars, and only mildy enjoys the original trilogy, I thought Andor was extremely compelling, and some of the finest sci-fi, or fiction in general, that I'd ever seen (and I am very picky).
It is, in essence, a brilliantly written rendition of an oppressed people building an effective and realistically depicted underground resistance movement against a fascist regime which happens to be attached to the star wars IP (which it uses well, aesthetically). So more of a tightly written political/espionage thriller than it is traditional space opera.
The quality of the writing is far, far beyond any other star wars movie or show, going very much into the territory of Where Eagles Dare, The Godfather, or or 3 Days of The Condor. The dialog is excellent, the plots excellent, the pacing excellent, I have very few complaints.
I think the quality of it comes from the writer Tony Gilroy putting a tremendous amount of effort into researching historical revolutions and drawing from those, which makes it feel very grounded.
If you dislike modern star wars, I really implore you to give Andor a chance, it makes none of the mistakes of modern Disney star wars, in fact it could not be more different.
There's only 3 original star wars unless you're counting the ewok movies and the holiday special. The prequels were twenty years later and are not original star wars.
The prequels are part of the original star wars (george lucas) saga
You're just referring to when Lucas owned star wars?
lol. Ok princess.
I must have struck a nerve implying that Jar Jar Binks might have less character depth than any of the Andor cast.
Don't know what was deleted there. But Darth Binks seems to evoke strong emotions in many.
Mostly for violating the anti-sniveling policy.
Ask the mods, they did it
You know Jar Jar Binks. let's see in 27 years from now how much of the Andor cast you remember.
Whelp, gonna go out on a limb and posit that I’ll be able to recall the lead character’s name. ‘Cause of the title, you see.
Andor always felt like a series adapted for star wars it could have stood on it's own
It benefits greatly by not being about the Jedi and the Force primarily.
In which case it's a sci-fi universe that lets us combine space tech with 1970s and 80s aeethetics.
I cannot tell you how happy I was when Luthen turned out NOT to be a secret Jedi... omg that would have sucked if he pulled out a lightsaber at the end to save everyone
I didn't even consider that scenario, it would have ruined the entire show for me, thank god they kept that kind of execs away from this show
Snuck past the Disney execs somehow. Or else they said "y'know what let's make one prestige show for the Emmy bait."
I find most of the shows were good in their own way.
The Acolyte had some of the best lightsaber combat in a live action show or movie that I've seen.
The recent Darth Maul animated show was pretty good as well
andor was probably the best DISNEY can offer
Andor is strong mid at best.. it's literally the exact same story as the first movies. So incredibly uncreative.. still, miles better than all the other star wars crap from disney.
Surely you jest.
Season 2, episodes 7, 8, and 9 showcase some of the most compelling sequences on TV. Diego Luna, a man under enormous pressure ready to come apart at the seams, run by master manipulator Stellan Skarsgård. Andy Serkis. Forrest Whittaker. Empire baddies Denise Gough and Ben Mendelssohn. What about Genevieve O’Reilly as Mon Mothma, who gives a masterful portrayal of brittle grace over a thinly-veiled nervous breakdown?
There was very little room left in the storyline chronology for a third season, and I suppose I could just watch Rogue One yet again, but knowing that doesn’t ameliorate my disappointment that we don’t get any more Andor.
Andor stayed true to the original Star Wars ethos. Rogue One as well, aspects of Solo, and some elements of the Mandalorian. Best Star Wars offerings outside the original trilogy screenplays hands down. Fight me.
Don't disagree with you
Unfortunately, that still doesn't make it better than strong mid
As a massive long time fan, I'd say the issue is Star Wars was originally a post-war film, and it's been deliberately held back from evolving to keep it recognizable. As a result, it doesn't resonate with audiences the way it used to. It's just not relevant any more. Andor was a great example of what they can do within the Star Wars galaxy to be relevant.
As a lifelong Star Wars fan, I enjoyed it. I thought it was fun, the soundtrack was great, the environments were really detailed and cool. The writing was mediocre, but it's for kids ultimately, so I don't expect it to be super complex - and it was still better than the Super Mario Galaxy movie for sure. There are more adult-oriented Star Wars content like Andor which is also great, but the kid-friendly content is also good fun if you just accept that it's content designed for kids!
And I fear that the lesson Hollywood will learn from this is that we don't like Star Wars, rather than that we don't like endless half-assed slop. Disclaimer: I have not seen this movie so I don't know if it's actually good.
But "endless half-assed slop" is the Official Motto of 2026!
CEO: Just produce double the half-ass and we'll have whole asses!
Artists: But it's still slop.
CEO: Wow, whole ass...
Artist: Seriously, fuck this guy.
Star Wars has been "half-assed slop" for 49 years. Some of its better than others, but the there's plenty in the OT to hate on if you want to hate. I love it anyway.
The movie was good. As good as any compareable segment of the D+ show. See it in the theatre if you can afford to.
In a galaxy far, far away.
But they have the lovable glip-glorp, the kooky jazz bar and another death star to blow up.