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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we ignore what they are calling "AI" then the consequences will be beneficial to all. So, yes, we'll live with those consequences.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because LLMs and similar generative “AI” tools aren't intelligent.

Nor, arguably, are they artificial, since the models are grown rather than built.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

What is intelligence? Also, I think artificial refers to the fact that they don't have life.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago
[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Because signal matching and manipulation is not intelligence unless you're willing to admit that is all you are capable of.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

AI tools don't actively manipulate people. They're just confident about their answers as they should be.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

I think they meant signal matching and signal manipulation

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I meant signal manipulation, but sure, that includes manipulating humans since we are just another signal input. That isn't a statement on values, just an objective description of how it works.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I still don't understand how it cannot be as intelligent as us.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That "intelligence" will tell you how it is not as intelligent if you ask directly. This is not because it's intelligent and KNOWS it's limitations but because it picked up on my signal for what I wanted and gave something resembling that to me. You could ask it the opposite thing and arrive at a very different conclusion. https://claude.ai/share/97859aae-beb2-4245-a8b1-460122ee4aa1

I would even say the analogies it gave aren't entirely accurate. A person reading a book experiences it very differently than an LLM. And this is a key insight to an element of the Turing test where you ask it to explain some poetry (not simply write a poem).

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

While I agree that it doesn't have a physical experience, I don't think a physical experience is necessary to speak to someone.