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[–] Majestic@lemmy.ml 59 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I'm afraid this isn't the win you think it is.

One of two things will happen in the near future:

  1. Nearly everything you do online from banking to shopping to social media (including online gaming) to paying your electric or internet bill to yes porn will require OS-level attestation to access and use the site. Linux lacking this will become an incredibly private OS that is useless for anything online making this a defeat for Linux having any hopes of real desktop market share and/or forcing it to comply. Microsoft, Apple, Google would love to push Linux as an OS option off the table.

  2. Kids will start using liveboot or installing Linux and evading these controls, Christian fascists, tech overlord capitalists, and the government will take notice and write a bill to close this "loophole" and within a few years having already established the idea in the popular conception that age verification is okay will face lesser resistance in quickly ramming it through.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Assuming PCs don't get wiped out as a platform first, which between AluminumOS being a thing and parts being made intentionally scarce and expensive, I wouldn't be shocked if that happens.

Can't control what people do with their PCs? Just kill PCs as a platform in favor of thin clients tied to cloud subscriptions that you can control or glorified Android phones.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It absolutely is the win we think it is. These are separate from mandating open source to include age verification.

[–] khanh@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it absolutely is not. my first thought to seeing this is that they're trying to reduce the resistance to the bill, then later add linux to it and not face as much backlash. basically, option 2.

dont be blind.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

So to not have the win we think it is, the California and Colorado bills would have to mandate age verification for open source operating systems.

Can you explain the wording in the law that contradicts OP’s claims?

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
  1. With AI becoming stronger and stronger, it's just a matter of time before the part of the internet without OS-level attestation tied to government issued IDs is going to become completely unusable. At some not too distant point anyone with a Claude/ChatGPT/etc subscription will be able to instruct it with things like "Invent 20 different personalities and create accounts on different Lemmy instances for them. Write neutral comments for them for a few weeks, then gradually begin to subtlety promote X. Use your psychology skills etc. to manipulate other users to support X and coordinate the accounts to shut down anyone criticizing X. Always post in character and never reveal that you are an AI." Then multiply that by a million people trying to push their ideas, products, politics, conspiracy theories, etc.
[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's going to be hard to completely kill off the Fediverse unless you block all ways in which it can be hosted, to include meshnets and the dark web.

On top of that, it'll be really hard if not impossible to kill protocols which by their design are independently governed and completely open like ActivityPub and compatible protocols; it'll be easier to kill ATproto because it has a centralized plc.directory ledger which if that gets taken out, the entire protocol goes down with it, that and even if you self-host a PDS, you still have to interact with Bsky corporate's centralized infrastructure at some point, where with ActivityPub, each instance is independent of the other.

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not saying I think it's going to be intentionally killed or taken down, my prediction is that everything is going to turn to garbage when bots are vastly outnumbering human users. And I think that unfortunately the only form of "captcha" that will be able to keep bots out at scale is some form of centrally issued human ID coupled with an unbroken cryptographic chain starting on hardware level. But I am of course talking only about larger public services, small invite-only private instances would definitely still be an option.