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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There are many people who call themselves feminists who fit the description I gave.

Lemmy is not the entire world.

If those people aren't real feminists to you, then you and I agree.

But the word has become multifarious and muddled, leading to mass confusion and needless hostility.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There are many people who call themselves feminists who fit the description I gave.

"Many people" who behave like this and call themselves feminist does not mean "Feminism has basically been co opted".

My point is that there are groups of political actors that either fabricate or boost the few examples of this type of behaviour to radicalize young and impressionable men into right winged behaviour/spaces.

But the word has become multifarious and muddled, leading to mass confusion and needless hostility.

So can making a post claiming that this is predominant behaviour, or that this is something that should redefine feminism.

Can you name a single famous or culturally significant misandrist that a non terminally online individual would know? Because I could name quite a few famous and culturally significant/powerful men who are actively misogynist on a daily basis.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No actually that is basically what co-opting is or means.

Who said this was 'predominant' behavior, of all feminists?

Not me.

Who claimed that the definition I gave was of what I consider real feminism?

I specifically set it apart, gave it a new conceptual descriptive name, as well as definition.

Nobody at any point said that misogyny is not a prevalent problem as well, with very prominent proponents.

I'm not gonna be talking to you anymore, because you're apparently not capable of engaging in this discussion in good faith, you're either consciously or unconsciously putting a crap ton of words into my mouth that I did not say.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

actually that is basically what co-opting is or means.

To successfully take over or assimilate something you typically require more representation than the opposition. You claiming that feminism has been co-opted implies that there are a large number of people behaving this way.

Can you name a single famous or culturally significant misandrist that a non terminally online individual would know?

I'm guessing you don't have an answer for this?