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As someone who is currently still in education for their degree looking at the current (and likely future) economic and societal outlook, it seems like employment in fields that cause/perpetuate negative issues in the world (Big Tech/Military-Industrial Complex, industries contributing to climate change, predatory sales/financial firms) continue to maintain strong employment availability and salaries as time goes on.

However, fields that have a neutral or beneficial impact on society and the world (Medical care, Food service, public infrastructure, humanitarian aid work, environmental research), either don't have enough available positions that people are able to transition into, have worsening working conditions due to poor management or limited resources, or just don't pay a living wage to most who work there.

I've read about the broken window fallacy, and I understand how focusing on personal gain without considering the impacts on the wider picture doesn't make for a better world. But can someone feel justified contributing to the "broken windows" of the world knowing that they weren't presented functional alternative pathways, and try to contribute towards the solution in other ways?

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[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

they don't have one to begin with.

i taught business ethics for two years as a grad student. 60% of the class would write papers how ethics are stupid because the only thing that matters is maximizing company and personal profit for themselves.

ethics is a nice thing people gesture and worry about, but when push come to shove, they will shove you in front of the bus to save themselves.

Many people will literally die for their beliefs, for the sake of righteousness. But I agree, sometimes people will be immorally self-centered (very often in some cultures, especially the morally relativistic ones).

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

they don’t have one to begin with.

I joined a morally grey child company for a parent company that is, in my eyes, immoral. I did it to see if I could make positive change from the inside.

I don't do anything in my job that directly contributes to the stuff that I think is bad in my company, but I doubt I'll make a change at this rate. I'm too small.

I'm glad I tried but I think I'm just really stupid about how to change the world for the better.

Yes, it's hard for me to continue on. If the job market wasn't horrible and I didn't have a family to support, I'd likely be elsewhere by now.

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social -3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

it's not that you are stupid, it's that you're that arrogant.

you're not that morally significant. you're not a hero. you're an average person.

but every average person is under the delusion they are living heroic epic moral adventure that is their own life...

[–] forkDestroyer@infosec.pub 3 points 4 hours ago

it’s that you’re that arrogant.

you’re not that morally significant. you’re not a hero. you’re an average person.

I don't think I was thinking of myself as anything but an average person, in this regard. I figured I could do my part to improve a system, then realized that there would need to be way more of people with that mindset at my level before a change would manifest.

Sorry if I gave the impression that I thought I was going to be a one man army, hahaha. Wouldn't that have been awesome?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

That implies the existence of special people whose moral choices matter, and a larger population whose choices are irrelevant. Not sure that makes a lot of sense either.