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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Is adopting new surveillance technologies part of that goal to reduce emissions?

If not, maybe we should try to consider how to have electric vehicles that do not surveil us?

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm all for less surveillance in cars, but American cars don't have any less surveillance than Chinese ones, so using it as a reason to prevent their import is a bit disingenuous.

What more Americans could use are more affordable cars—particularly affordable electric cars—and competition with Chinese imports would help that happen.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Surveillance in new cars is a reason to not buy new cars.

No matter where it's country of origin is.

I would rather modify an old I.C.E. car to be electric than to buy anything that reduces my freedom or charges me subscriptions for basic features.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I would rather modify an old I.C.E. car to be electric than to buy anything that reduces my freedom or charges me subscriptions for basic features.

So you don’t have a cell phone/smart phone, right? Or smart tv? Or streaming box? Or a windows computer? Or a car with TPMS sensors?

Because they’re all tracking you, and that’s just a few off the top of my head. Yes, you can limit what and how is tracking you, but when it really starts to cut into the quality of life, most people don’t care. And yes, great, you’re not most people but that’s not what people think about. If they did, digital privacy laws would be radically different.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Anyway, to go along with my old non-surveillance-infested cars:

  • my phone runs GrapheneOS
  • my computers run GNU/Linux
  • my TV is dumb
  • my media is selfhosted on Jellyfin
  • the only "smart" devices I use are flashed with ESPHome and connect to selfhosted Home Assistant
  • Hell, even my e-bike uses a standalone controller and does not pair with my phone or connect to an "app!"

Checkmate, troll.

But go on, explain how none of that matters and we should all be little bitches like you who just willingly bend over for the corpo-stalkers. Explain how your bullshit comment is anything other than fucking worthless doomerism.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 minutes ago

Go eat yourself

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 0 points 9 hours ago

I'm trying out SailfishOS myself

[–] zigmus64@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Concur…

However, I gleefully await the modders to teach me how to remove that when I eventually get an EV