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[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Significant proportion of people don't fit into binary sex definition, however much you cut and define it, people have all sorts of crazy combinations. And if your strict binary definition doesn't include all the subjects, it's not strict, not binary, and signifies not a lot.
"The observable universe is either Hydrogen or Helium, we don't let small percent of exceptions destroy this nice model we have"

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure. But saying "biological sex isn't a strict binary, and trying to say that it is is dismissive of intersex people and those with sex-related chromosomal disorders" isn't the same thing as saying "biological sex is a lie".

In a the same sense that "the universe is majoratively hydrogen and helium" (which is true) isn't the same thing as saying "the universe is either hydrogen or helium".

By being overly reductive you're making a true statement into a false statement.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The concept of biological sex relies heavily on it being a strict binary. Without this strict binary, it requires so many caveats and clarification to actually work, it quickly becomes unuseful neither in medical, nor in societal sense.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You're calling it a concept, but biological sex isn't a concept in the same way as gender is. We didn't just make sexes up.

There are very real physiological differences between those with XX chromosomes and XY.

And while I do agree with you that we should be teaching a more spectral view of sex that acknowledges those who don't fit into the normal XX and XY model...

I simply cannot agree with the notion that our model of sex is medically useless because it doesn't perfectly cover <1% of the population without caveats.

And then calling biological sex a lie because you disagree on how we model it is plain anti-intellectual.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

We literally, definitionally made it all up. We had a "man" and "woman" before we knew anything about human bodies, we collectively invested in the idea of the human duality, and then every time we discovered anything that contradict that duality, we tried to cram more caveats into that just so we have this rigid categories, specifically two of them. Meanwhile the sole usefulness of the categories was that there are two of them and they are very well defined and have very specific characteristics, and can be used to predict something about a person.
The more we learn about human bodies, the less those categories make sense, to the point where having a sex as a category is as useful as having your eye colour as your defining characteristics. Even in this thread the sex was defined as "chromosomes and the gametes and stuffs". Having it tied to the amount of Y chromosomes wasn't useful even in the last century, let alone now.
No amount of deflection will save your old rigid shit you cling so much to in fear of needing to update your worldview.