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[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how it correlates with municipal spending per capita on public safety and walkability infrastructure. Lot of underfunded, red-state cities on that list; I imagine Republican cities in CA might similarly underfund their safety infrastructure.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think that's part of it but it's also partly the legacy built environment. California leaned harder into auto-centric infrastructure than maybe anywhere else in the entire world. That's starting to change but rebuilding an entire transportation system takes time.

Especially when public funds are scarce. Prop 13 does have a part here since tax increases generally require a supermajority of voter approval to be implemented.

Even here in Sacramento (we're #20 on this list I believe) improvements have been slow despite there not being a single republican leader on the city council in recent memory. But they still won't put real funding into solving these things, instead focusing on symbolic improvements that don't address the problem.

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That makes sense. I'm not familiar with CA policy specifically but in the southeast, all cities (at least, the ones I'm familiar with) have in common:

  1. most constituents already have cars (or limited access to transport).
  2. constituents who must walk are much less likely to vote (for related and unrelated reasons).
  3. Fixing transportation infrastructure is actually hard, and expensive, and it takes forever, and it often goes wrong.

So, it's political safer to just continually complain about it than to spend one's capital on actually addressing the problem.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah spot on here too I think. We do have a light rail but its reach is limited, most people live in spaced out suburbs, and the mode share is overwhelmingly car dominated.

The density issue is really hard to fix. There's been so much conversation and debate about a new light rail line and even as a public transit advocate I have to wonder if it makes sense when you're serving such a spread out population. The number of people within walking distance of the stations is so low when it's just single-story houses on 1/4 acre lots as far as the eye can see.

That's why I'd rather focus on transforming the urban core into a really great car-lite destination. This is more physically and economically viable, but the issue is most voters in the suburbs won't like this because it makes it harder for them to access. Our metro area is so huge that cars are really the only practical way to cover that distance, so I think we need to build more urban town centers in every suburb. But they won't want to do so unless they can see a successful example, which they're currently blocking. It's a thorny issue.