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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 128 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's worse than that... what they IPO with is basically a tiny percentage of SpaceX composed solely of xAI

The entire stock market is basically 99.9% blind speculation and 0.1% basic math, which is why it rarely makes sense

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's not even a surprise, this is from SpaceX s-1 document: only 7% of their estimated valuation is from Space related activities

[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is "Enterprise Applications" like shooting datacenters into space, or copilot business edition?
I think the "Space-Enabled Solutions" part sounds more like designing satellites than the space-launch business.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They bought Cursor for AI. Earlier this year cursor switched to pay per use model, so now every engineer is spending dozens to hundreds of AI Bucks. I don’t think Cursor is profitable on that yet, but I imagine xAI are looking to scale that model, both to turn Grok into something that earns an income, and to scale up to profit despite cost of datacenters/training.

I’m skeptical there is really a profitable market, but it might be the most grounded of his predictions. The technology exists, the business model is successful at a small scale, so they just need to scale

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The technology exists, the business model is successful at a small scale, so they just need to scale

could you provide details on that?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You could probably research the company but from my direct experience

  • Cursor is one of the stronger contenders for coding - bringing a variety of models to tools where coders are.
  • Cursor switched to pay per use, significantly increasing costs and didn’t lose customers
  • cursor charged more for higher end models and didn’t lose customers
  • grok is not currently there, or at least not what I can see, so is a huge gap from an xAI perspective
  • it seems good enough business model to business people to be worth a huge purchase

Once grok is added to Cursor, I will just have it, along with a variety of other models, and can simply choose it based on cost and effectiveness. It may even be chosen for me since I usually leave it in automatic, and my company is a paying customer where each engineer spends a budget

Also it’s more like a subscription. Software companies love a subscription model with regular income, rather than selling something you pay for once

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's what I was referencing, I'm surprised the regulators and the exchange let that happen

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

National Bank employee during OWS protest in 2011.

You are surprised that the people doing this during Occupy Wall Street are allowing this?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of several people standing on a balcony overlooking an Occupy Wall Street protest in 2011. This woman specifically was at the time believed to be an employee of National Bank but I don’t know if they were ever identified individually.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago

It disturbs me that my first thought was "facial recognition exists now".

This timeline is cursed

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

there are no rules anymore man… they just change them to rig the game in plain light… no ill consequences for the rich

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The entire stock market is basically 99.9% blind speculation and 0.1% basic math

The US, England, and Japan are all returning to quantitative easing policy. So we've once again got too much money chasing too few investments. What a lot of naive investors see as a market bubble is recognized among the more savvy as a return to our ongoing policy of asset inflation.

A lot of what SpaceX is selling boils down to an access point to public spending - through sale of military hardware and equipment, network access to Starlink, and R&D funds allocated to the private sector. That's what is really driving investment. It is, in effect, a play on the future of police and military spending.

Still wildly overvalued imho. But not "blind" speculation.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So we've once again got too much money chasing too few investments.

maybe it's time to redistribute that too much money. lets free them from their burden.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Can't do that. That's Communism. Communism Killed 10 Trillion People.