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[–] Disastrous_Elk_6375@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

So it seems that a bunch of ex-openai core people will move to MS, and possibly work on the same stuff, depending on what MS has access to based on their openai investment deal. They're most likely to focus on bringing stuff to the enterprise market fast.

At the same time what's left of openai will put the breaks on stuff and possibly emphasise safety and slowing down. I think everyone will come out of this kerfuffle having "won" what they wanted. No idea how this will impact the overall field, but possibly some players will get a free catching-up opportunity. Maybe.

[–] sometimesnotright@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Useful_Hovercraft169@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Super hot disco breaks

[–] Disastrous_Elk_6375@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

oops, derp me. I'll leave it as it's funny, but thanks!

[–] Thistleknot@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

How would a non compete work in this agreement

[–] BalorNG@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Please dear Tzeench, have someone leak gpt4 in general confusion, I MUST know if this is really 10 7b models in a trench coat :)

[–] PwanaZana@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Abominable Intelligence is forbidden by the Emperor's Decree, battle-brother.

[–] colei_canis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

So is praying to Tzeentch more to the point, somebody get that heretic!

[–] TheWildOutside@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It was actually just the janitor. They told him he was getting messaged on a dating app

[–] IlIllIlllIlllIllll@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

isnt it 10 200b models in a trench coat?

[–] BusinessReplyMail1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They’ll be slowed down naturally without trying from everyone leaving to join Sam at Microsoft.

[–] fallingdowndizzyvr@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

depending on what MS has access to based on their openai investment deal

I think they have access to it all. Since even before all this drama, they pretty much did.

[–] frownGuy12@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If the Emmet Shear is to be believed this whole thing has nothing to do with safety.

[–] Disastrous_Elk_6375@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Emmet Shear

I hadn't followed everything but a quick google away I found this, that I assume you're referring to:

PPS: Before I took the job, I checked on the reasoning behind the change. The board did not remove Sam over any specific disagreement on safety, their reasoning was completely different from that. I'm not crazy enough to take this job without board support for commercializing our awesome models.

Interesting. I think we'll know more as things settle.

[–] LosingID_583@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What was it then, sabotage? The board had the entire weekend to explain why they did what they did to their employees, but chose not to. No wonder everyone in the company was pissed and signed the letter to resign.

[–] InterstitialLove@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Whether it has to do with safety or not, Shear is seemingly more safety-conscious than Altman

Shear has said in interviews that he thinks the probability AI kills everyone in a Skynet-esque scenario (I'm paraphrasing) is between 5% and 50%

Whether recent events were motivated by safety or not, the conflict seems to have wound up being between safety-conscious and accelerationist factions

[–] Tartooth@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Not everyone will have "won"

End Users are going to get a even further lobotomized product and microsoft is now going to slingshot over openAI with a privatized version

[–] ThisGonBHard@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

OpenAI was not gonna release shit for consumers either way, doomers are to scared of shadows to do it, and GPT3.5 was too advanced to make public by Illya.

Because Microsoft has GPT4 too, I am pretty sure they are just gonna continue working on what they were before as if nothing happened, under Microsoft, just now are not shackled and can go full steam ahead.

The doomers lost, because now the acceleration side is free and unshackled. At best, they bought 4 months, but progress might come 3x faster after those.

[–] PMMeYourWorstThought@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Or OpenAI will revert to open source? Please little baby Jesus, let them release the GPT-4 model.