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[–] Dr-McLuvin@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] agoddamnlegend@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

in this economy

I know r/nfl isn't the place for this but can we stop pushing this false narrative? Economy is very strong right now by any metric. I don't know what people expect, but this is what a good economy looks like.

Love to see this comment. I get that everyone’s situation is different, but this is objectively a great economy. If you don’t like your job, you can probably find a better one pretty damn quickly if you want to right now. Especially if it’s a low paying service or manufacturing job.

[–] spasianpersuasion@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

In New Jersey? Definitely

[–] FailResorts@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I love seeing Tommy still living with his extended Italian family, seeing as how that's actually how that community in America lived for most of its existence. The big family dinners, Corleone compound, etc. I hate seeing people knocking him for this, given he's likely happy and in his element living as such. Why take that away? He's living the New Jersey/New York Italian-American dream. And if he's smart about what he's doing, he's likely putting a good bit of his salary away or giving it to his family as his way of contributing. I also think he has until he's 26 to be a dependent, at least for insurance purposes, no? I don't know about taxes.

I was on my parents' insurance until the day I turned 26 because my parents' health plan didn't cost them any extra to have me on it, versus me getting raked over the coals paying premiums at the job I had at the time. They wanted me to have more take-home funds to pay off student loans instead of having ~$300/month taken out for healthcare premiums (for a plan that had worse coverage than my parents' family plan). I don't know when my parents stopped claiming me as a dependent on their taxes. It's also kind of ironic people giving Tommy shit for living at home as if some 60% of millennials and Gen Z college grads haven't turned around and moved back in with their parents due to skyrocketing cost of living and housing. I don't blame Tommy for not wanting to buy or rent an overpriced condo/apartment/townhome in the NYC metro area when his parents already have a place in New Jersey.

To that point, the US is unique in that we don't encourage cohabitation with extended family. Almost every other region of the world outside the US and a few Westernized countries do this. The whole "it takes a village" concept starts with extended family. Both Disney films set in Latin America (Coco and Encanto) use this as a major setting/plot device. It's actually a smarter move financially, as major bills and such can be split among more people instead of it falling on just one or two.
It's something to do with our weird obsession with individualism and isolation.

[–] winowmak3r@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I get the family bit, I really do, but if you're still on mom and dads plan while in the NFL I'm sorry but that ain't right.

[–] RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It's kind of weird how as soon as countries get rich enough to do it they start moving to a Western model, almost like living with all your relatives up your ass all the time sucks

[–] Emma_Watsons_Tampon@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like I should get an awards for reading this and I only got half way through

[–] cire1184@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moved back in with my mom after my Brother and Father passed away. Didn't want her to be lonely even though she works and has her own activities. Being alone at home, I couldn't leave her like that. Nothing wrong with living with parents, just chip in a little.

[–] xAerIalSx@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I did similar when Mom ws diagnised with cancer, move back to help around and make it so Dad could still work and do stuff. After she passed last year I decided to stay cause I'm sure with dad retiring an living alone it would have been horrible for him. I'm super happy about it for both of us as well.

[–] WelcometoCigarCity@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Kicking your kids out after 18 is American culture.

[–] SuperGT1LE@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

As an Italian American it’s very normal for us to live with our parents till our early 30’s while saving as much money as possible after college. So reading this both makes me laugh but not at all out of normal

[–] bibbidybobbidyyep@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

You almost nailed my own personal soap box, we had a culture shift in the mid 1900s because we were too prosperous. Now we need to shift back to multigenerational households like most of the rest of the world but now it's taboo.

[–] w0nderbrad@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'm still on my parent's family plan with AT&T. I have a wife and we're thinking about kids... LOL maybe when I have kids of my own

[–] E997@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

To that point, the US is unique in that we don't encourage cohabitation with extended family.

IDK man, its one thing for financial reasons but valuing your own privacy and autonomy without having a ton of family breathing down your back at home transcends culture and nationality lol

[–] JerryRiceAndSpice@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I love seeing Tommy still living with his extended Italian family

I can still see him getting shit at every family dinner. "Look at this fuhkin guhyyy" While getting noogies from his older siblings. "Come on I said pass the gravy!" "Mah! Cousin Leo won't pass the gravy!" (Italian sauce)