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Like was it a meaningful debate or a flat out flame war? And what was the main theme you were arguing over?

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[–] Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That women should have the ability to give informed consent at a doctor's office.

I've had to argue for decades that birth control shouldn't be held hostage until women submit to a pap smear.

It's flat out unethical to hold a prescription until a patient does an unrelated screening, no matter how good your intentions are. It'd be like doctors withholding Viagra until a guy got his prostate checked annually. Yes, it's a good idea to do cancer screening but no one should be coerced into any medical procedure against their will, especially such an intimate and invasive one. This only happens to women.

And yet you'd think I told them they should skin their new puppy alive. The amount of vitriol and even sexual harassment I got for maintaining this was mind blowing. And it was always from other women. I was told I'm a little girl, or not a "real" woman like it's some sort of twisted right of passage.

I wasn't debating that the exam doesn't save lives or that people should stop having it done, just that women should have a choice and not be coerced - that it should be treated just like colonoscopies in that it's entirely voluntary.

It hasn't been that big of an issue in recent years. But early 2010s holyshit you'd think women didn't think that they should have bodily autonomy (and a lot of this was coming from fellow pro-choicers!).

This was a thing in the southern US. I know the North half of the country wasn't as insane.