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A commune or a cult would be better than this circus lol

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[–] dark_stang@beehaw.org 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you can find one that isn't a weird sex cult, let me know.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the other hand, if you find a werid sex cult, let me know.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

god I was hoping it was like tourists show up and just get laid by natives but instead it's just weird cuckolding.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tourists show up and just get laid

That would be Ibiza... but it only works during summer.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

Ibiza

ohh yes! They got the kinda nightclubs you usually only see in movies.

[–] liv@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That article kind of presents an idyllic/outdated view of the Himba people. Modern life affects them as well and a lot of young people don't want to live like that.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Interesting, and indeed a dilemma. I basically mentioned it because just yesterday I saw a guy talking about "sex in the past", and he happened to mention this, apparently in an even more idealized/outdated way.

Basically he said that a bunch of them would go through a "bonding ritual" at the age of 14, and from then on live like a sort of communal marriage, where the woman would shoo out the husband because she had a date with some other guy of the group, and that they were the "happiest people in the world" and would act surprised at outsiders' focus on their sexual practices.

From the other article, it sounded more like forced marriage and women abuse... and here it sounds like most of them want to get out of there.

Interesting series of takes.

[–] starbreaker@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if it was just a vanilla sex cult?

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

you gotta suck a few eggs to make an omelette

[–] ErisShrugged@beehaw.org 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does the cult have a good plan for healthcare? If so, please send me your newsletter, manifesto, religious tract, pentabarf, whatever.

[–] Milksteaks@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd settle for a cult with a good dentist tbh. According to US healthcare eyes and teeth are separate from the rest of your body.

[–] loops@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We call teeth "Luxury Bones" up here in Canada.

[–] Sombyr@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago

As somebody who was once part of a cult, it's just the same circus but worse.

[–] Tehgingey@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

If you've ever heard of WOOFing that's a great place to start. It's a work trade program I did years ago, tons of farms around the world. You get room and board, just work the farm for a short term. I traveled across Canada doing that years ago and ended up staying on one for 2 years in the discovery islands off the coast of BC. One of the best times in my life. Now I live in downtown Toronto, wondering why I ever came back ahaha

[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dont know, you cant really go shopping for cults. Cults go shopping for you.

[–] jayemar@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

In soviet Russia...

[–] MrGG@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Already planning on it here in Canada once my friends and I have the money for what we want to do.

Farming (+greenhousing) and some cottage rentals on the side.

Peace out, modern society!

[–] mayo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cottage rentals for income?

Currently my plan is to get far enough into my career that I can spend half my time in city making money and half in the woods

[–] MrGG@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly, cottage rentals for income. To supplement farming and other ventures, anyway.

I'm lucky that my work is 99.9% remote, so as long as I can acquire a stable internet connect I can continue to work out there if needed. Existing entirely in the woods is incredibly appealing.

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[–] emma@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't come anywhere near close to meeting the requirements for intentional communities. Chronic illness is a real bastard. I don't need much and the quality of my life could so easily be improved by just a little help from others, but everyone - even intentional communities - is caught up in focusing on how much others can help them. What I can give is less tangible, and therefore dismissed.

I don't want to abandon society but I do recognise we'd all be far better off if we lived in ways which were less isolating. Every person/family for themselves harms us all.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A huge problem is that most neighborhoods and houses aren't facilitating community. You don't need a commune or a cult as OP was joking.

I live in a house where one of the apartments is used communally by all the other residents of the house and it changes so much. It doesn't have a functioning bathroom so the landlords couldn't give it up for rent. But it has a kitchen, a balcony etc.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very often I would like to abandon my life in reality and become a part of an ideal world which I have imagined. It is surprisingly easy to become part of a rural cult (look up "intentional communities") so it's a backup plan I have in mind if necessary, but with people we're going to be dealing with a different version of the same set of issues. We as a species are nuts.

[–] thefloweracidic@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol yeah I love intentional communities, I so want to join one if I could!

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I used to live in a housing co-op and loved it. That being said you are going to have to deal with people intimately in that kind of living situation, so quality of life is greatly influenced by how well you mesh with the others around and things can change.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve thought for a while that it would be cool to buy up a block in a suburb and do urban farming as a community.

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[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, but finding a job in a slightly less fucked country would be great once I have sufficient work experience.

[–] thefloweracidic@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do it, I believe in you!!

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[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about a traveling circus? Bonuses: it's mobile, it's a circus by design, it's inclusive, and goofing around is just part of the culture!

[–] thefloweracidic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

This idea is precious

[–] ClarissaDarling@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a beautiful dream! Almost a decade ago my family and I left the city and bought land with some other folks. Now it's just us out here in the wilderness, others are welcome but most people can't leave the city.

[–] Leafeytea@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can't be too "wild" out there, if you are able to pop into Beehaw...? 😂

I would love someplace totally off the grid.

[–] ClarissaDarling@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Starlink is everywhere! There is no cell service here so we had much more limited communication prior.

[–] thefloweracidic@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds fantastic, yeah my partner and son are super city dependent they can never leave.

[–] ClarissaDarling@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

We got out of the city before door dash, grocery delivery, etc. so we don't even know what we're missing when we trek over a hundred miles to the Costco. I'd imagine that makes it easier!

[–] NarrativeNavigator@lemmy.basedcount.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a good idea. It would be interesting to create an ideal communist utopia on a small scale so we can see how/if it actually works. Do it!

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Spanish tried this in the 30's. It was a part of the Spanish civil war and is an interesting read. I'd also recommend On Anarchism by Noam Chomsky which goes more in depth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution_of_1936

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[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Already looking for a land that might be livable in 10/15 years

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[–] Arotrios@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Abandon society - yes. Commune - JFC no. Vagabond gypsy caravan? Possibly, but only if there are werewolves and mysteriously sexy tarot card casters involved.

[–] Erdrick@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

My dad did it back when he was a hippy.
He still talks very fondly of the time he spent out in the Arizona desert all those decades ago.

A piece of me would like to drop out of society and live in solitude.
While I lean towards being a loner, I realized that I am probably mostly a hybrid.
I enjoy some human interaction, but also love being alone to do whatever the fuck I want.
To me a commune would be too intimate and I think would end up being like a small town type of scenario which doesn’t appeal to me.

[–] outer_spec@lemmy.studio 6 points 1 year ago

I would but in a commune they would probably just force me to mine or farm all day instead of doing a job I actually want

[–] along_the_road@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want more affordable housing

[–] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

The fact the term "affordable housing" exists is the problem, all housing should be affordable, it's a necessity, not a damn profitmobile.

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Peace. More bandwidth for the rest of us.

[–] nicktron@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I talk about this a lot - mostly tongue in cheek (mostly) - and my partner always calls me the Unabomber afterwards, or asks when I’m publishing my manifesto.

I’m not a people person and society seems to be getting worse, plus I love rugged living and being outdoors. I can dig it.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I'm honestly so close to going home and living on a kibutz

[–] S0L1DX@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] apis@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Not really, no. The idea of living in a small community makes me feel nauseous and panicky, and the more remote the commune the more intense the aversion.

But I wouldn't mind some sort of arrangement between some others who also like the idea of being off-grid but who loathe the idea of being in a small community, where we'd be off in the wilds with a LOT of space between us, but still come together occasionally to help each other out with various things, or be available be radio or whatever.

Similarly, the idea of being part of a nomadic group seems quite appealing to me, especially if more people join along the way and others dip in and out.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

No I like not to have to worry about food every day and potentially die if I have some medical issue.

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