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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago (3 children)

UNC Chapel Hill’s commencement was held the day before Monday’s DEI announcement. At the ceremony, football stadium screens displayed a message that read: “Anyone who does not leave or put down signs when asked will be removed and arrested. Thank you for your cooperation.”

For those in the back, this isn’t ok. This isn’t freedom. This isn’t American. This isn’t free speech.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Oh, it’s pretty fucking American…

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

You’re right. It’s not a free speech issue on private property. I’ve been attending protests for over 25 years. You need to know the law before you dig in your heels, or accept the inevitability that the protest can legally be shut down. Resisting after request for disbandment will only catch a charge.

The way to play is cat and mouse. They say no signs, you make t-shirts and chant. They say no t-shirts, you use skin paint…

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Then they buy everywhere so you have nowhere legal to protest.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

My point is understanding the law can help you work around it. Pushing back with constitutional rights claims on private property won’t get you anything but arrested. Just be more clever than those setting the rules. They legally have to warn you that the conduct is unacceptable before taking action. Then you just change the conduct to comply while continuing to protest.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is UNC not a state university?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

What was the point of that second sentence when the threat of non-cooperation is arrest?

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

It's well played by the right. Make sure there is a direct visible tie between the completely unconnected areas of policing and diversity. Buy some Jan 6th friendly
anti democracy cops while defunding your opposition, it's perfect. Sets the stage for your coup attempt state military

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

the vice-chair of the board’s budget and finance committee, Marty Kotis, indicated that he considered the DEI programs to be disharmonious to the campus atmosphere. “I think that DEI in a lot of people’s minds is divisiveness, exclusion and indoctrination,” Kotis said at the meeting during which the vote was held. “We need more unity and togetherness, more dialogue, more diversity of thought.”

And the way they go about promoting unity and diversity of thought is more police?

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 months ago

Fascists gonna fascist

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

If nobody is allowed to complain about lack of unity and diversity because they know there's a beat down for complainers, there isn't a problem, is there?

Gotta love the complete hypocrisy in the VC's statement of simultaneously silencing dialogue about diversity and needing more dialogue and diversity. She just needs more shades of white on campus.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

"safety" and "policing"

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

This is gerrymandering.

Democrats win statewide elections and the MAGA Klan runs the legislature because of decades of Koch brother funding.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As an employee at a school in the UNC system, Chapel Hill is just one school in the entire UNC system. It’s UNC-CH you lazy freaking reporters. There are 16 others and as much as Chapel Hill likes to think they’re special, they aren’t.

So no UNC did not divert $2.3M, Chapel Hill did.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is that not the biggest campus? Like their flagship location?

[–] nexas_XIII@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I wouldn’t think that matters. I think it only matters if the school has their own ability to change where they allocate budgets and not the system as a whole directing it.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Nope. That’s NC State. Well biggest anyway, not sure what you mean be flagship. UNC-CH just likes to think they’re the only one that matters.

Sorry, it’s just a pet peeve of mine. Had three of my boys go to UNC schools and none of them were in Chapel Hill.

It’s not like you can say you went to UC and everyone assumes it’s Davis or Berkeley.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you actually work there?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_North_Carolina

The University of North Carolina is the publicuniversity system for the state of North Carolina. Overseeing the state's 16 public universities and the NC School of Science and Mathematics, it is commonly referred to as the UNC System to differentiate it from its flagship, UNC-Chapel Hill.

I didn’t know even read that before I called it the flagship. It’s just universally known

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I do work for a university in the system (24 years) and graduated from the same university so I have been with this school for over 35 years. Notice in the wiki article it says University of North Carolina is the entire system, not just the one school. Chapel Hill likes to think they’re an elite private school like Duke, their main sports rival. They’re a state school like the rest of us. But they are the oldest and most recognizable mainly due to their sports program.