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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is, tho.

Still voting Brandon because I can string together more than like 3 neurons.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He needed the State Department to find that in their report that justified the pause. Either he’s allowing Blinken to provide an inconclusive report or he simply trusts him too much. Either way, that’s what he’s missing to take a firm stand.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Glad to see someone understand how this works.

Normal presidents don't determine what they say or their policy based off mainstream news, let alone sources liable to call it a genocide like TikTok.

They get it from State Department and other executive branch briefings, and if those departments don't classify it as one, then the president won't either.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Thanks lol, started as a name for my healing characters in games. Used to go around saying, "Anyone need some universal healthcare."

That's beautiful! 🤣

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am once again asking for nat 20s

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Omfg, a D&D campaign where everyone played caricatures of politicians could be super fun.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the same people are critical of Biden being tough on China, who has been committing genocide according to the UN since 1951.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow why are they so bad at genocide?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They are committing cultural genocide of the Tibetans and the Uyghurs. They’re unfortunately very good at it.

https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/genocide-of-the-uyghurs-in-western-china/china-tibet-and-the-uyghurs

[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The arrest warrant isn't for genocide. It isn't mentioned at all. It's about mass killing and using starvation as a weapon of war. Joe and his team obviously knew that before issuing the statement, so this must be intentional misrepresentation. So if anyone is under the impression that the US is just a neutral and unbiased third party; here's a clear cut example of them lying to support the Netanyahu government.

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I doubt anyone ever thought the Us was unbiased in Israel-Palestine.

One of the first the americans started blaming for 9/11 before it was revealed to be Al-Qaeda was Palestine.

[–] splonglo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Let me put it another way: There are lots of people who believe that the US and co are at least fair on this issue. It's worth assuming that for every narrative and impression given by the media there will be people who accept them.

So I think there's a lot of utility in putting yourself in that frame of mind and then thinking: ' If I believed this, what would make me question it? '

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He should have said nothing.

He may have just thrown the election

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

With protests as rife as they are across the world, and sentiment against Netenyahu at its lowest as he begins murdering innocent people in Rafah (and crossing Biden's own red line as well as many nations red lines in the process), the last thing Biden, already dubbed genocide Joe, had to do was throw his full weight behind Israel and drag the US down with him.

We all know that Trump will be disastrous for the US, and a self-proclaimed dictator with followers who literally worship him as the Messiah will turn the US into a nation akin to what we've been deriding and attacking for decades. Trump cannot win, of course he can't. But to expect voters to back Biden when he's this brazenly in support of a genocide is delusional.

If dems want to win the vote, they MUST front a new candidate. Biden simply has too much blood on his hands this time. Dem voters will most likely abstain, and if not, then they'll split the Dem vote. Tell Biden to sit down and let someone else run.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

I still think "Trump would be better for Palestine" is worse.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

If you're implying Trump should lead America again, you're literally insane. Anyone who believes that man should be let near a position of power - let alone the highest office in the US - is either ignorant or has vested interest in the decision.

If you're convinced that what's happening in Palestine is par for the course, and that Israel's actions are justified, and that the people protesting around the globe for Palestine are being over dramatic, you're ignorant, blind and truly deluded, or, again, you've some personal bias towards Israel which fails to allow you to accept reality.

If you don't agree with both of the above statements, then you cannot disagree with my comment. I said Trump cannot win because he isn't fit for office. I also implied that Biden is tarnished by the Israel conflict to be seen in a positive light by his voters. If the Dems want the win, they can't possibly go into an election with a president who is actively leaning into his "Genocide Joe" moniker. They need another candidate.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

Fucking hell, it's like he's trying to lose.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 months ago

Joe. C'mon. What the fuck.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

He knows he'd be next if they were successful at this. This election situation makes me want to fucking throw up on a daily basis. Fuck you biden for making me vote for a genocidal piece of shit like you, and triple fuck the maga retards for making me vote for anyone but an actual fascist cuck. I hate this place

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

Why is there a genocide coming out of your oven, Seymour?

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck....

—I just saw this story while creepin' on Reddit. That place has become completely overrun by astroturfing propogandists. It's depressing on one had and on the other it makes me glad I deleted my user accounts the day they wen't public.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Incumbent losing elections speedrun (New World Record)

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 10 points 5 months ago

Both Biden and Trump deserve to lose so bad

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Curious who the last US president who meaningfully criticized Israel would have been. If I had to guess Biden is bound by defense treaties and other formal agreements, both public and covert, and has to walk a fine line in how he talks about this and other geopolitical matters.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

Yes, this is accurate. Trump, however, showed us that you could just ignore the law and make your own rules with blackjack and hookers, and the worst thing that'll happen is some stern finger wagging. If there was ever a time to do that, stopping a genocide is it.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

LBJ was responsible for covering up USS Liberty

And Kennedy was supposedly killed for opposing things like toppling nations such as Cuba.

So I would assume Kennedy as he would likely have been much more critical of their actions and would have made the incident very public.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Should say nothing then.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 months ago

Why does something tell me that this speech is going to be shown on repeat on all Russian TV channels?