Holy shit, could you imagine getting a 2024 car with 16mpg.lol why?
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Got to compensate for those insecurities bro.
I mean, I am going to use it to tow my boat everyday AND drive my 8 person family around 24/7, DUUUH
You drive a more fuel efficient vehicle? What are you poor or something? /s
You jest, but cars absolutely are a modern status symbol. To the point where getting a better car is the first thing the average American does when they make enough money to jump up a class. It's woven into the fabric of our society.
From the perspective of middle going to upper class, fuel economy is a staple of the class that still worries about paying for gas.
Yes, if it was an Aston Martin, not a pile of shit that looks like a pig having a seizure
Apparently most Americans. I can't go anywhere in my tiny car without the vast majority of the parking being filled with behemoths like this thing.
Have worked on these. Can confirm they're terrible. Possibly one of the worst vehicles on the market
Worst in what way?
Not trolling, actually curious.
Biggest problem: I've seen several kill their own batteries. Like 3V across both main and aux batteries. That's not really recoverable without battery replacement.
General quality control is bad (I have to be careful not to give details here. I like my job).
Subjectively, I just don't like the vehicle. It's the flagship for everything wrong with the auto industry. It's too big, too heavy, handles like shit, too many things to distract you from actually driving the fucking thing.
A friend of mine had a Wrangler Rubicon - built to drive straight up mountains, but never left a paved road in its life
At least than 5 years old, the oil pan rusted out. I live in an area that salts roads in the winter, but even 10 year old 80's cars back in the 90's didn't rust out that bad
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Can you name the truck with 4-wheel drive, smells like a steak, and seats 35?
I don’t even enjoy driving full-size trucks or SUVs. Though high up, they’re hard to see out of… the giant hood is on your way when off-roading and you can’t tell if you’re about to drive off a cliff. Can’t see children in front of the car, or anything behind it without a rear view cam. Poor stopping and turning, harder to park, terrible fuel economy.
do you feel cool however? /s
I love how JD Powell has a stupid award for everything (and they don't mean anything, they're just a stupid marketing company.)
Want to have a best truck award but don't have the best truck? Well, we can sell you a "Best Truck under 4 tons" award. Don't have the best truck under 4 tons either? We have a "Best truck under 4 tons under $45k" for you...
And it just keeps getting more ridiculous.
Going to the American version of the link required me to fill in a zip code... what kind of site are these people running?
They look for locations close to your zip because a zip doesn't reveal your entire address and your entire address isn't needed.
Then it gets an idea of your whereabouts and if you want to purchase a vehicle it looks at dealerships near you I think or if you order I think you can have it shipped to a dealership in your area.
I dunno, I don't buy cars.
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The F150 is the best selling truck for 46 years straight
The F150 is also the most sold vehicle for 41 years straight
People like their oversized vehicles, price/mileage/etc be damned
People like their oversized vehicles, price/mileage/etc be damned
They can always put some stickers on fuel pumps and bitch about Biden and blame him for their bad decisions.
stickers on fuel pumps
i see this image a lot in public parking.
you mentioned Biden so I assume you mean this
It's also worth considering how much of those sales come from companies buying fleets of them. Slightly different monster than private consumers.
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okay, DAFUQ?
EDIT: ohh... its likely for your kid and not for the driver.
Saw one on the road.
"Wagoneer" is absolutely the top of my list for the STUPIDEST name for a vehicle. How that makes it out of any boardroom is just unfathomable.
The Wagoneer model started in 1963. Been around a LONG time. The classic models are actually pretty cool, but the 2024 is generic.
I recall renting a Grand cherokee in 2016 and being disappointed to find it was like driving a caravan in a lot of ways. Nothing like the older Grand and regular Cherokees I use to own.
The "new" Cherokee seems to be like a slightly larger Patriot clone. It's like the movie industry creating new movies with old names. The new stuff is usually not as good or completely different.
I agree Wagoneer is a stupid name, but I think Mitsubishi Pajero is worse, "Pajero" meaning "Wanker" in chilean spanish.
“Pajero” meaning “Wanker” in chilean spanish.
what kind of process and/or lack thereof need to happen to have that anything with that name be put out into the world by Mitsubishi.
It doesn’t even look “big” or “tough”. It looks obese.
I live in a fairly high-income area, and almost everyone drives new cars. I've noticed a trend that all new cars have stretched out longer, and it really bothers me. It's just a very ugly trend.
Not as ugly as a Rivian
Or Cybertruck 😂
The suv looks fine
The truck looks a bit wonky
I definitely feel they're trying too hard to be Range Rover.....
Seen em on the road around me. They're a throwback to the original jeep wagoneer, but yeah... Fuck how big and goofy these stupid things look.
$61k for 16mpg city?????? What the fuck?
People with money?
It tows a lot and it's a far better daily than a pickup.
Just like Cadillacs, there's a saying about how can you know someone is good at making money but not good at how to spend it, and this is the proof.