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Windows feature that screenshots everything labeled a security “disaster” (www.theverge.com)

submitted 5 months ago by boem@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] zerofk@lemm.ee 179 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Don’t worry, DRM-ed content isn’t recorded, so big companies’ IP is protected.

[–] Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 120 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Make Mario my desktop background and stay protected forever by the holy power of Nintendo's lawyers.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Can you add a banknote or EURion symbol somewhere to dissuade image-processing software?

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[–] ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If the data stays on a local device why is drm protection even necessary 🤔

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 32 points 5 months ago

because you're not "allowed" (in some places you are) to copy stuff you paid for.

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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Always keep Netflix open and playing to stay safe?

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 23 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I think only the player is blocked, and would be shown in the screenshots as a black rectangle

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 108 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Source: DUH!!!!

[–] Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Another study:

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Peer review

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 100 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine trying to use Wireshark on windows to debug or look at some service.

Just an avalanche of packets going to 20 different domains on idle.

[–] neo@lemy.lol 67 points 5 months ago

No, no. You see, Recall runs locally. It's "edge computing". Which would imply to me that it runs on my router...? Anyway, it's not the cloud, it's edge and AI and surely super cyber, too (whatever that means). My point is, I could give you many more buzzwords, so don't worry. You won't need Wireshark ever again, just ask the AI if your network is secured. 👍

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 75 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I just installed Nobara today so I could finally rid myself of Windows hell and it’s been amazing.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is that a linux distro?

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 45 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Nobara is a Fedora distro(essentially backed by IBM) by Glorious Eggroll (developer who made Proton GE) designed to be more gaming user oriented, as many of its preincluded configs and applications were tailored to gamers.

[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 43 points 5 months ago

Calling Fedora IBM backed feels so wrong but technically true I guess.

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[–] Quik@infosec.pub 18 points 5 months ago

It is, a gaming focused Fedora distro to be exact.

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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 65 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Kinda funny, not too long ago it was a fun mental exercise if you were paying attention to the tech industry to try to think of the ways in which Google or MS could fall.

Now, AFAICT, neither are falling any time soon, but there certainly seems to be a shift in how they're perceived and how their brand sits in the market (where even so I'm still probably in a bubble on this).

But I'm not sure how predictable it would have been that both would look silly stumbling for AI dominance.

And, yea, I'm chalking recall up to the AI race as it seems like a grab for training data to me, and IIRC there were some clues around that this could be true.

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[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 64 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Jesus Christ. All these requirements for something most people didn't ask for:

System requirements for Recall

Your PC needs the following minimum system requirements for Recall:

A Copilot+ PC

16 GB RAM

8 logical processors

256 GB storage capacity

    To enable Recall, you’ll need at least 50 GB of storage space free

    Saving screenshots automatically pauses once the device has less than 25 GB of storage space

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Sounds like the way around this is to make swap space take up the drive up to 24 GB. Then trim the swap space as you need it.

I know it says "to enable" but let's be real here. It's going to be a placebo switch.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Every update :

"Let's get Recall set up for you!!!!"

[–] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Microscopic "Maybe later" button in the USA...

Normal sized "No" button in Europe...

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 months ago

If it's anything like the "sign into your Microsoft account to continue" bullshit, there will be no cancel button. You'll need to cast an archaic spell where you summon a spirit from the Netherworld, who then just gives you a 60 minute lecture on enshitification and why you should install Arch.

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[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So Windows 11 has a built-in keylogger!

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 42 points 5 months ago

If only that. This is much more invasive

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 42 points 5 months ago

If you’re faced with the tradeoff between security and another priority, your answer is clear: Do security. In some cases, this will mean prioritizing security above other things we do, such as releasing new features or providing ongoing support for legacy systems. This is key to advancing both our platform quality and capability such that we can protect the digital estates of our customers and build a safer world for all.

Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft, 03 May 2024

You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means.

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (24 children)

Who even wants this? What good is it? I see no use case.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

Microsoft is talking control over its ecosystem. Will it police your os for piracy? Look at what you do so it can sell you products? The use case is infinite once they have the data

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

FTFY: Windows ~~feature that screenshots everything labeled~~ is a security “disaster”

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

no one does enshittification quite like the masters of it at ms

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Embrace, Extend, Enshittify I guess it is nowadays.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I miss when Microsoft was just evil and greedy and not stupid.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Is it stupid? I doubt MS cares about the absolutely miniscule amount of people who will care enough to complain about this. Those people would probably just turn the feature off, or use a different OS, anyway. Catering to that audience isn't something MS cares about.

The average user won't do a thing. MS gets to outsource the computational work of all this spying to their users and then hoover up the data at the end. Microsoft stands to gain a lot from this in the markets where it will be allowed to fly.

[–] librejoe@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Microsoft claims it's offline, but how sure can we be? I smell what the rock is cooking.

[–] tron@midwest.social 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Even if it was 100% offline. For how long? Microsoft can change that with a patch at any time. Suddenly all your personal files are being fed into GPT with no consent.

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[–] graymess@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter. If your PC is ever compromised, that feature is a one stop shop for stealing everything you have ever done on your computer.

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[–] BurnedDonut@ani.social 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean who is surprised at this point?

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

How many screenshots of security "disasters" does a person really need?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

Microsoft: trust us bro!

[–] Xylight@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hate this feature but if that UI is real it's beautiful

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's not, it just a marketing image.
Say what you will about Microsoft and Win11 but their 3D animated trailers and marketing images look amazing

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How does this make Microsoft money? What's their path to selling the result of this feature?

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Probably targeted ads, since they claim the data doesn't leave the device, they get the AI to figure out what type of ads to show.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

No shit.

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