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Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.

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[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 211 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck, this is seriously bad news

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 117 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I always expected us to never address our ecological destruction or climate change in any meaningful way, and instead devolve into some techno-feudalist, fascist dystopia before the civilisation collapses into a death spiral... But man... I've never wanted to be wrong more in my entire life.

Watching the EU regress in unison, back down the auth path, is not how I expected it would go down.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 61 points 5 months ago

“Cyberpunk was a warning, not an aspiration.” -- Mike Pondsmith

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[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 110 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I managed to convince my brother and a friend of mine to vote for them. This is really disappointing. Over half the votes in Germany were for right-wing parties this time, over 16% were for the right-wing-extremist party AFD. Germany really wants history to repeat itself ig.

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 58 points 5 months ago

But at least France is holding its hand this time! 🙃

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I voted for him. Sad to see him leave. It doesn't seem like we have many advocates for digital privacy in the parliament.

e: typo

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 92 points 5 months ago (43 children)

I had somewhat hoped that my fellow countrymen in Germany would not fall for the obtuse populism of the right, but that is exactly what has happened.

I'm afraid there's nothing left to counter this, because voters obviously no longer care about rational arguments and don't even want to acknowledge the real problems of our time. They make it easy for themselves and just blame everything on illegal migration or whatever - just as the right-wingers tell them to do.

In this reality characterized by stupidity and false attributions of blame, it is hardly surprising that important but somewhat abstract topics such as data protection are no longer of interest to the masses. It's enough to make you cry.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As an American, it's really sad to see the EU fall into this trap.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The saddest thing about this is that the Europeans and especially the Germans should really know better. But no, all the lessons from our dark history seem to have been forgotten - or they are simply ignored so that one can once again live in the comfortable world of simple explanations where there is always some minority to blame.

[–] NekkoDroid@programming.dev 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Imperor@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tagesschau has a graph showing AFD being the highest % voted party all over eastern Germany and second highest voted nearly everywhere else, following CDU/CSU. You really only see green or red in the larger cities.

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 83 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Quick reminder that in a liberal democracy, social movements are more important for progressive change than electoralism.

Join a union. Be it trade union, housing union, or whatever (or even any affinity group). And get active.

Complaining about election results achieves nothing, but sow despair.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Also: voting is important because it lets you choose your enemy. Progressive liberals and social democrats won't fight against you as hard as conservatives and fascists.

Putting this here because some people might read this and think "Voting doesn't matter."

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[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 64 points 5 months ago (13 children)

There are more parties who defend internet privacy then just the pirate party. Won't matter much tho with the current rightwing majority.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

They have been very active fighting the chat control proposals that keep coming, haven't really seen others being so active about it besides them. This is really bad.

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[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Does the average voter just not care at all about anything actually important? What is even going on here?

[–] HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

We just had a vote for government officials along the EP vote. Less than 60% turned up which means the most common vote was a vote for nothing. The average voter doesn't care.

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[–] Deathcrow@lemmy.ml 50 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

These results are just a drop in the bucket in relation to the grim state of German election results and overall societal discourse.

There's not much room for optimism right now. Very dark skies ahead and things may get much worse before they will become better.

[–] Nestor_II@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Same in Belgium, how is this the new reality seemingly everywhere???

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mass propaganda and some reeeeeaaaaalllly stupid people.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have voted PP since their conception, and I think we have them to thank for a lot. Will continue to do so, probably forever. I don't understand how these issues don't get more attention these days. Tech related privacy, anti monopoly, ai safety etc is just a part but they have excellent values in other areas as well.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 15 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I don’t understand how these issues don’t get more attention these days

Who owns the media?

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[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 months ago (19 children)

I was considering voting for the pirate party, but they polled at less than 5% in France and it was not a useful vote, which was evidently needed.

[–] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 74 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I still voted for them, because I could.

And I'm sick of the useful vote thing, I did it last time in 2022 against Le Pen and all I got was a lousy President.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (17 children)

Better a lousy president than a fascist, hell, boring politicians is what we should aim for!

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[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I'd much rather vote for a party that aligns with my values but might not get a seat, in hopes it will inspire more people to do so next time around.

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[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wish I could actually vote for the pirate party. But I can't here. Didn't show up in the election list. They were 2 or elections ago

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Sounds like you're the new candidate.

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[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 5 months ago

I was thinking the whole week if I should vote the greens or the pirates but due to the recurring campaigns to establish a surveillance state I did end up voting pirates. Incredibly disheartened they didn't get a seat :(

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago

and unfortunately czech pirate representatives dropped from three to one :(

[–] cheesecakecat@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

God fucking damn it

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 10 points 5 months ago
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