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[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 28 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Not surprising. I've honestly absolutely loved my Ioniq 5 (SEL AWD for those curious). My city operates fairly cheap chargers on the ChargePoint network ($0.21/minute) that are basically my saviour since I don't have a charger installed in my condominium.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What city are you in? I think the Ioniq 5 is criminally underrated.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bloody heck, what you still doing up?

It makes me happy that you're a Texan that drives an EV and a Hyundai at that 🤩

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm only going to be a Texan for a few more weeks haha. Leaving for good in early August.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Where are you heading to? Somewhere warm I hope?

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 5 points 4 months ago

Lol fuck no. I'm not originally from a hot climate, and that's one of the reasons I'm leaving hahaha.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually moving to NYC.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait, isn't New York colder than Texas? 😂

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Being from the cold UK, if I was moving it would have to be to a warmer climate. But the food in New York makes it so tempting!

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, the only city in the world I like more than NYC is Tokyo, but that's a separate discussion. New York is honestly pretty fucking awesome, slight media fearmongering aside.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you ever need a body double to go to Tokyo in your stead, call me! 🙂‍↕️

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hahaha I'll be fine. I'm going back in December for a couple of months.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Stop making me jealous! 🥺

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

嫉妬させ止められなくてすみません。でも、あそこで90代の車を買えるかもしれません。ww

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I woke up to this and it made me laugh aloud. Thank you!

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 2 points 4 months ago

Glad I could help! :)

I'd say have a great day but you're 6 hours ahead, so I hope you're having a great day!

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How is it underrated? I've heard nothing but accolades from social media, the press, and owners themselves.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 3 points 4 months ago

When you look at the sales, even the Kia sells more and obviously the model 3 is a monarch.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I want one. My worry is what to do once the battery needs replacing? I wonder what it would cost?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

By all accounts, batteries tend to last longer than most people own a car, so don’t worry about it.

You might think you’d instead worry that no one would buy an older car, but if you keep it that long, you’re getting almost nothing back for it anyway, so don’t worry about it.

My pattern has been to keep a car 10-15 years, until repairs are more than the vehicle is worth to me. At that point there is still resale, but not for very much. How would an EV change this? Tesla batteries are supposedly good for 15 years/250k miles, so I would likely sell for other reasons before having to worry about the battery. Unless there’s a fault, batteries tend to fade more than die, so if my cars battery is only 70% of its life at that point, it still has use/value.

Since I have a short commute and work from home, I only charge once per week to a set point of 80%, so should be very easy on my battery. I also charge from home, so fast charging is rare, also easier on the battery

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You have conservatively at least 10 years before needing to replace a battery. Even with a greater upfront cost compared to combustion cars, EVs are considerably less expensive over a 10 year period because of the lower energy and maintenance costs. The only regular maintenance most EVs should need are tire rotations and replacements of consumables like the cabin air filter, windshield wipers, brakes, and tires.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but then I wonder if the cost of replacing the battery would exceed the cost of an ice vehicles maintenance?

You got Hyundai trying to charge more than what the car is worth new, for a replacement battery pack.

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

EV batteries don't typically catastrophically fail, they gradually degrade in max capacity. And many combustion cars also have expensive repairs needed near the 10-15 year mark. My Ioniq 5 has 300 miles of range now, and we really only need about 120 miles for a week of commuting for my wife. So we could afford a 50% hit before needing to do something about it, which should be quite a long while from now. We just couldn't take it on long road trips. So at least for me, the battery replacement cost in 10-15 years is not a big concern. We'd probably lean towards replacing the the whole car before just the battery.

For comparison, our combustion car is 11 years old at this point. It's in rough shape and could be replaced, but my commute is short. Hoping to hold off on replacing it for another ~4 years unless there's an expensive repair needed. The EV battery tech is evolving so rapidly these days that I expect cars with 500+ miles of range will be on the market by the time we buy a second EV.

[–] thesystemisdown@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

1k-15k depending on size and whether it is of a modular design or not. Might be worth the homework.

https://www.edmunds.com/electric-car/articles/electric-car-battery-replacement-costs.html

[–] beefalo@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

I've thought about it, but I know little about leasing. Not to mention I tend to keep my cars for 15+ years. At least so far, anyway.

I don't fully understand how leasing works. I've seen they want a down payment plus a monthly. Which seems like a lot of money for a car you aren't keeping.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 2 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately that totals the vehicle from what I've seen.

[–] MoistCircuits0698@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Plus one for Ioniq 5. It is a great car.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How's the headroom? I'm 6'4" and I tried out the Kia EV6 but it was just too short. I figured the Ioniq 5 would be fairly similar.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 2 points 4 months ago

I'm like right at 6' and it's pretty decent, but I still have room to lower the seat. I'd be willing to bet you could fit in without too much difficulty.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Can they still be stolen with a USB cable, or is that just the gas ones? (Serious question)

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's only pre-2015 models without a push to start button

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Also only models in the US