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Most seedlings seem to making their way through it!

I’m hoping stuff like the radishes can get through though, beans are going gang busters with it though, seems to have helped the peas as well. Generally everything since the tops been kept moist!

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[–] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I do the same thing. I get clean pesticide free straw bales very cheap, about the price of a 6 pack. Straw insulates and helps the beds retain moisture. I use it to hill up the potatoes. Then you can leave it over the winter and in the spring your beds will be so amazingly soft and full of worms. The straw blocks the soil from getting compacted by the rain, and worms will run around loosening the soil.

When you remove the straw it’s halfway rotted. Perfect stuff to make compost with, I like to add my Austrian winter peas to the straw, run them through my lawnmower to chop it all up.

Some people here have said wood chips but you should never put wood chips on vegetable beds. It can be okay around your flower beds but use it sparingly. When wood chips break down they use up the nitrogen in the soil. Straw doesn’t have that effect.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

run them through my lawnmower to chop it all up.

yo got a link or how to? this is fascinating but I can't see efficiently mowing back and forth over a pile lol

[–] GingeyBook@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago (5 children)

What is the benefit of straw?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a form of mulch. It helps retain moisture, among other things.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Want their marketing spiel?

It’s an organic mulch, I contemplated using my grass clippings, I wanted hemp, but all was online order and it was the weekend. Can also use leaves.

End of the year, I can just compost it into my soil by tilling it.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I believe we use the cedar bark chunks (the red or brown chunks of wood) to try to keep pest plants from taking root, is the straw to keep moisture in?

Edit: Yay, I was right

[–] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

In addition to retaining moisture and preventing growth of weeds, it also greatly increases the albedo of the soil. It's a fairly underrated benefit, I think. Nice, dark soil can really soak up heat on those hot summer days. If you need your soil to warm up, like in early spring, you can keep the straw off. It also helps with erosion during rain. If you've ever grown a low-lying green like spinach, you know how dirty it can get due to soil splashing it up, and straw helps with that, too.

The downsides are that it's weirdly stupidly expensive for the name brand product (gardenstraw) considering that it's a waste product.

Getting regular old straw from a hardware store or local farm can be risky because it can contain a lot of weed seeds, and it can have herbicides that can kill your garden. It's also generally longer pieces than the purpose made stuff, so it's less convenient when you are placing it.

[–] rdyoung@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It simultaneously protects the seeds from birds or other jerks and keeps the soil moist longer

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Actually didn’t mind the look, thought about doing grass clippings, but weeds and I’m not sure about the nitrogen fixing from the clover. Maybe I’ll try on of the small beds next year with that.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

in that case, be careful about your sources. You wouldn't want to introduce pesticides, herbicides, fungicides you try to avoid ( if that's what you do), through straws from a poison farm

i would have kept those straw beds 3, 4 times thicker

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They seem to be good

Honestly, I wanted to go with hemp, but it was all online order and wouldn’t have gotten here fast enough. Which is strange with them being local, I can’t just drive there.Hempalta

I agree, they recommend 2” thick, but I’m worried about the seedlings making it through. The radish tops would barely crest the top by harvest time?

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

but I’m worried about the seedlings making it through.

just make an opening with your hand where you seed/plant and your plants grow towards the light

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only a few of my stuff is planted in rows, most is scatter planted. Limits my options unfortunately. Learning stuff though.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

i never plant in rows. I use those openings as markers :)

i never plant in rows. I use those openings as markers :)

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

How does that work?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just know that slugs love it below that stuff too.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Can’t say I’ve ever seen one, I know they can be here, but it’s usually dry, doesn’t rain often so stuff doesn’t stay very wet. Now that we have talked I’m sure I’ll get some now though haha.

[–] whyrat@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Since we see a lawn in the background; consider using your lawn clippings too, they make a good garden mulch layer; very similar to straw.

[–] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I used my grass clippings I would end up seeding my garden beds with grass. Straw can have some seeds but generally very little

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Doesn’t most grass species take a couple months to go to seed and dry to be viable? I would worry about spreading other weeds that couldn’t get established through the ground cover, but would excel in the fresh dirt. But that shouldn’t add much more than what was naturally already there though?

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I worry about the clover and excess nitrogen, and wouldn’t that become a bit more hard packed and make it hard for seedlings? If I had just a bed of starts I think that’s a great idea though.

[–] Taiatari@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does it not just blow away?

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Some does yeah, I can’t keep the top as moist as I would like with the watering restrictions though.

We get really bad gusts, otherwise I think it would be fine.