If you wanna buy a car made by a company that just paid a $55billion bonus to one of the biggest asshats in the world, this is your chance.
this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2024
2 points (57.1% liked)
Electric Vehicles
3124 readers
362 users here now
A community for the sharing of links, news, and discussion related to Electric Vehicles.
Rules
- No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
- Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here.
- No self-promotion
- No irrelevant content. All posts must be relevant and related to plug-in electric vehicles — BEVs or PHEVs.
- No trolling
- Policy, not politics. Submissions and comments about effective policymaking are allowed and encouraged in the community, however conversations and submissions about parties, politicians, and those devolving into general tribalism will be removed.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Not to mention, the board are definitely not independent. ~~How Musk isn't in jail for securities fraud is beyond me.~~ Just kidding. We all know why. He's rich and Republican. Fuck this asshat, and every company he owns. Hopefully ~~Blue Origin and~~ other firms supplant Space X.
I'm a Blue Origin hater, too. They pretend to be an old space prime by buying their way into a market but not having done anything. They don't have the drive, efficiency, or fun redeeming qualities of startups.
For rockets, I would rather see Stoke pull off Nova and Rocket Lab build Neutron.
For space stations, I'm rooting for Vast and Gravitics.
For space tugs, go Impulse.
For moon landers, BO copied SpaceX's homework, so go Intuitive Machines and Astrobotic.
Thanks for the list of alternatives! I was just throwing Blue Origin out there because it's a name other than Space X. I'm honestly not nearly as in-the-loop as I should be on these things.
I mean... I want Blue Origin, and all the other new launch providers to succeed, but Blue Origin was founded in 2000 and in 24 years has not reached orbit. I have a feeling it's going to be a long time before they exceed F9 on payload cost to orbit / cadence, and Starship might be operational in expendable mode within a few more test launches, this year.
That was just an example. I just want anyone else to succeed.
Whatever you think about SpaceX, were ultimately doomed if none of the others get to their level. We really do need more than one semi/fully reusable launch provider.
Rocket Lab, Stoke, and Relativity are all trying!
I hadn't heard of Stoke, one more to follow now, thanks!
Good point
I didn't think he was paid yet, the shareholders approved it but it has to go back to court
That is correct. The law firm who challenged it in the first place is saying this has no bearing on the ruling and will submit their updated brief or whatever its called on Friday. Tesla is saying the new vote addressed the concerns laid out by the judge and should therefore invalidate the ruling.
Edit: IANAL this is not lawyer speak, just my understanding of what's happening
Edit: it's also stock, not money, and he can't use it for 5 years. So 5 years from now everyone can all bitch and complain about how it's $50 billion, or $5 billion as everyone thinks Tesla is going to collapse, or $150 billion if they pull off a miracle.