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[–] cinaed666@kbin.social 139 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dang I hope lemm.ee is safe. Hopefully Estonia doesn’t decide the same.

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, I'm an Estonian citizen at least 😅

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I didn't even consider .ee to be a country domain. I thought you used it for the catchy name.

That's pretty cool.

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[–] deadhead@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For anyone that wants to learn more about internet domains, the MKBHD Waveform podcast has an awesome episode about this topic. It’s a super interesting listen where they talk about how the internet works and one of the organizations behind it (ICANN).

ICANN and the 7 Keys to the Internet

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Spotify

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well, and it's not like this should take anyone by surprise, it's been 10 years coming. Unless Mali was telling people not to worry and then did an about face? I haven't seen anything to indicate that.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

Quoted for emphasis.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They needed the one that stood for "marxist-leninist" is why, in case you were unaware.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m just pretty staunch about not paying for a domain name, they add no value whatsoever

Heh, what a tool. Nothing's stopping him from just using ip addresses, or the reverse that whoever provides the server ip almost guaranteed have set up. But no, he wants a fancy looking one, so it HAS some value or he wouldn't need one, and a domain require name servers, and people administrating and maintaining it. He just don't want to pay for that part. And come on, a domain is like 15 dollars a year?

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[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Turns out it was free for a reason. 😅

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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It'll be fun when Tuvalu decides to take back .tv

[–] lea@mlem.lea.moe 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1/12th of their national income is from .tv so they'll have sunk before that happens...

[–] SmokesForBreakfast@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But isn’t that day also nearing at a drastic rate? I feel like they’ve been on the brink to Atlantis for a while now.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AFAIK they won't pass this decade, yes

[–] SmokesForBreakfast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Damn. How does that work out logistically speaking?

[–] Blastoid5000@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Climate refugees will have to find new homes. I would imagine New Zealand and Tahiti would absorb the couple-thousand people as they are the closest larger Pacific Island nations. Australia is less friendly to immigrants.

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[–] Boforn@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well, this is just weird. When I was migrating from Reddit to this fediverse world I chose .ml and thought it was short for "machine learning" which seemed as a cool domain for me at the time.

[–] humanreader@infosec.pub 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

FYI, two letter TLDs are country/region/jurisdiction specific. There's an ISO standard for that.

  • .tv Tuvalu
  • .me Montenegro
  • .fm (Federation of) Micronesia

Some countries append additional modifiers to classify their uses:

  • .uk United Kingdom
  • .co.uk Company
  • ...

Three or more are generic (traditional or new)

  • .com, .net, .org, ...

In some cases, Uncle Sam said "first!" and it stuck.

  • .edu Education (MURICA)
  • .mil Military (MURRICA)
  • .gov Government (MURRRICA)

Just like what happens with Mali, what some silicon valley hipsters decide as a 'fun' acronym is just that, a fun thought. If the corresponding government decides to take away a specific domain, they probably can.

[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

.mil Military (MURRICA)

That is what made this whole .ml problem. Some people have apparently accidentally leaked American state secrets to Mali by typo.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's a poor excuse. If something is secret or higher it has a different TLD. The SIPRnet uses .smil for example. There are also tools at the boundaries that don't allow going from SIPR to NIPR unless they meet specific criteria. Basically you can only leak those secrets accidentally if they were already on a system they shouldn't have been on.

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[–] teolan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • .edu Education (MURICA)

.edu is not only american. For example I know many schools in France have .edu domains and emails, and I believe it's the case in many more countries.

[–] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2001 it was limited to US educational institutions only, all registrations prior were grandfathered in.

Although I haven't got a clue why my non-US university, founded in 2009, has a .edu domain.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did not know that. That's not cool

[–] livus@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Pretty sure most countries use .ac for universities. Ac.uk, ac.au, ac.nz are all standard.

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

And io belongs to the British Indian Ocean Territory.

There are thousands of gTLDs now, though. But most of them are brand names.

https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db

[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a generic top-level domain. It is not associated with any country. It belongs to "Identity Digital Inc.".

[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Interesting, thanks

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[–] livus@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, it's Mali.

The rumour is that lemmy devs chose it to mean "marxist leninist" but I think it's more likely they wanted a free domain name.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The rumor is fake, the devs have said it multiple times. If they would have wanted to do some funny Marxism meme they would have used .su

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe they didn't choose it for that, but to be fair they are definitely and admittedly Marxist-Leninists

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, as there are plenty of other developers who are openly liberals or some other flavour of capitalism. You don't need to agree with the developers political choices all the time to use their software.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right. My statement was one of fact, not trying to say it's a bad thing. I'm a Marxist-Leninist as well.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Hello there comrade! Nice to have you here!

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 year ago

SU = Soviet Union

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[–] flathead@quex.cc 20 points 1 year ago

Sounds like it will if Mali decides to take back .ml as Gabon apparently did for .ga. background here https://domainincite.com/28814-millions-of-domains-to-be-deleted-as-freenom-loses-its-first-tld

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
$ whois lemmy.ml
WHOIS lookup for LEMMY.ML can temporarily not be answered. Please try again.
ERROR: domain not found:
$

But it's still in my DNS cache

[–] Slacker@seal.cafe 12 points 1 year ago

Certified Lemmy Moment

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