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[–] cinaed666@kbin.social 139 points 2 years ago (28 children)

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dang I hope lemm.ee is safe. Hopefully Estonia doesn’t decide the same.

[–] sunaurus@lemm.ee 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well, I'm an Estonian citizen at least 😅

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

I didn't even consider .ee to be a country domain. I thought you used it for the catchy name.

That's pretty cool.

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[–] deadhead@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For anyone that wants to learn more about internet domains, the MKBHD Waveform podcast has an awesome episode about this topic. It’s a super interesting listen where they talk about how the internet works and one of the organizations behind it (ICANN).

ICANN and the 7 Keys to the Internet

Apple Music

Spotify

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Well, and it's not like this should take anyone by surprise, it's been 10 years coming. Unless Mali was telling people not to worry and then did an about face? I haven't seen anything to indicate that.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

Quoted for emphasis.

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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It'll be fun when Tuvalu decides to take back .tv

[–] lea@mlem.lea.moe 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

1/12th of their national income is from .tv so they'll have sunk before that happens...

[–] SmokesForBreakfast@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But isn’t that day also nearing at a drastic rate? I feel like they’ve been on the brink to Atlantis for a while now.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

AFAIK they won't pass this decade, yes

[–] SmokesForBreakfast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Damn. How does that work out logistically speaking?

[–] Blastoid5000@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Climate refugees will have to find new homes. I would imagine New Zealand and Tahiti would absorb the couple-thousand people as they are the closest larger Pacific Island nations. Australia is less friendly to immigrants.

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[–] Boforn@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Well, this is just weird. When I was migrating from Reddit to this fediverse world I chose .ml and thought it was short for "machine learning" which seemed as a cool domain for me at the time.

[–] humanreader@infosec.pub 35 points 2 years ago (5 children)

FYI, two letter TLDs are country/region/jurisdiction specific. There's an ISO standard for that.

  • .tv Tuvalu
  • .me Montenegro
  • .fm (Federation of) Micronesia

Some countries append additional modifiers to classify their uses:

  • .uk United Kingdom
  • .co.uk Company
  • ...

Three or more are generic (traditional or new)

  • .com, .net, .org, ...

In some cases, Uncle Sam said "first!" and it stuck.

  • .edu Education (MURICA)
  • .mil Military (MURRICA)
  • .gov Government (MURRRICA)

Just like what happens with Mali, what some silicon valley hipsters decide as a 'fun' acronym is just that, a fun thought. If the corresponding government decides to take away a specific domain, they probably can.

[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

.mil Military (MURRICA)

That is what made this whole .ml problem. Some people have apparently accidentally leaked American state secrets to Mali by typo.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's a poor excuse. If something is secret or higher it has a different TLD. The SIPRnet uses .smil for example. There are also tools at the boundaries that don't allow going from SIPR to NIPR unless they meet specific criteria. Basically you can only leak those secrets accidentally if they were already on a system they shouldn't have been on.

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[–] teolan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
  • .edu Education (MURICA)

.edu is not only american. For example I know many schools in France have .edu domains and emails, and I believe it's the case in many more countries.

[–] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In 2001 it was limited to US educational institutions only, all registrations prior were grandfathered in.

Although I haven't got a clue why my non-US university, founded in 2009, has a .edu domain.

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I did not know that. That's not cool

[–] livus@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Pretty sure most countries use .ac for universities. Ac.uk, ac.au, ac.nz are all standard.

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

And io belongs to the British Indian Ocean Territory.

There are thousands of gTLDs now, though. But most of them are brand names.

https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db

[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a generic top-level domain. It is not associated with any country. It belongs to "Identity Digital Inc.".

[–] Blaze@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Interesting, thanks

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[–] livus@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, it's Mali.

The rumour is that lemmy devs chose it to mean "marxist leninist" but I think it's more likely they wanted a free domain name.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The rumor is fake, the devs have said it multiple times. If they would have wanted to do some funny Marxism meme they would have used .su

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe they didn't choose it for that, but to be fair they are definitely and admittedly Marxist-Leninists

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, as there are plenty of other developers who are openly liberals or some other flavour of capitalism. You don't need to agree with the developers political choices all the time to use their software.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right. My statement was one of fact, not trying to say it's a bad thing. I'm a Marxist-Leninist as well.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Hello there comrade! Nice to have you here!

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 years ago

SU = Soviet Union

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[–] flathead@quex.cc 20 points 2 years ago

Sounds like it will if Mali decides to take back .ml as Gabon apparently did for .ga. background here https://domainincite.com/28814-millions-of-domains-to-be-deleted-as-freenom-loses-its-first-tld

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
$ whois lemmy.ml
WHOIS lookup for LEMMY.ML can temporarily not be answered. Please try again.
ERROR: domain not found:
$

But it's still in my DNS cache

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[–] Slacker@seal.cafe 12 points 2 years ago

Certified Lemmy Moment

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