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Leaker yeux1122 says that Apple Store staff have been told to make sure iPhone 15 buyers know about the change...

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[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If theyre in the apple ecosystem, they already have apple products that charge with USB-C.

not an apple user myself, by my cousin is stoked he doesnt have to carry extra cables to charge his phone as he already carries his Macbook charger with him. Doesnt apply to magsafe ones for obvious reasons

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The magsafe ones still use USB-C on the charger side, and you are not required to use the magsafe cable, so honestly just bringing the charger and a C-to-C cable will charge both the phone and the laptop.

[–] aard@kyu.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do people even use the magsafe cables? Not a mac user, but I initially liked the idea - so I got some cables and port inserts which pretty much look like the apple variant. I stopped using it after killing a charger by shorting it out with some metal particles trapped by the magnet, and noticing that all cables started collecting small metal particles when used outside of a sterile environment.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My current laptop has a MagSafe, and I had laptops from before they had switched to usb c charging and I have never had that problem.

Do you work in a metal shop?

[–] aard@kyu.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you work in a metal shop?

Not that I'm aware of.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure, I can only reply anecdotally that I have used Apple laptops with mag safe connectors for many years and never had a problem with metal getting stuck in there and shorting stuff out.

I think I remember a post from a few years back where someone was having problems charging and found a used staple stuck in there, but I don't think it has been a wide spread problem.

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[–] vacuumfountain@startrek.website 39 points 1 year ago

Apple doesn’t tell its store employees SHIT. We were on MacRumors and streaming the keynotes so we wouldn’t be blindsided. I really doubt they were told this.

[–] cuchilloc@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don’t get it, current charger is usbc out. The current charging cable is usbc to lighting. Why won’t the included cable work with the old charger? New cable should be just usbc male on both ends. What am I missing?

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The new cable, that is included in the box, is C to C, both male, so there is literally no issue. Apple is just butthurt that they had to ditch lightning.

And probably they want to redirect the anger of iPhone buyers from them to the EU.

[–] cuchilloc@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And 9to5 mac is butthurt too? Like… I still have two iPod classic cables and they are not going to the landfill. They will replace the one I use when it breaks. Same will happen for these, you will give them along to whoever still has a lighting jack until they break.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are just reporting what Apple says.

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9to5mac spews the same garbage Apple puts out in my experience.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are so butthurt they said they will be limiting data transfer speeds to usb 2.0 because they want people to use their stupid icloud subscription

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[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple is trying to claim it's the fault of regulators that usb-c to lightning cables will be useless e-waste despite being the wankers that chose to use lightning instead of usb-c in the first place.

[–] anteaters@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

It's good that regulators put a stop to Apple producing even more proprietary BS cables then.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lightning predates USB C by like two years

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (9 children)

But not USB as a standard it doesn't. They still chose proprietary over standard because wankers.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Micro usb fucking sucked. Being a standard doesn’t mean shit when the standard is shit.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you talking about? Lightning cable specs were identical to micro USB.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Other than, you know, the connector. The thing most people care about. Most USB-C cables today are usb 2.0 still anyway so they have the same spec as Lightning.

Micro usb was non reversible, the little pins broke all the fuckin time so the cable wouldn’t stay in the port, and the connector would damage the port itself so you’d just be fucked.

Lightning was miles ahead of that. It was reversible so it literally didn’t matter how you put it in. There were no fragile little pins to hold it in so it lasted a lot longer, and since the internal pins in the port were all on the sides of the port it was a lot harder to damage the port itself. If the cable got damaged you could just replace it without worrying about the port.

Lightning was better than micro and mini usb in pretty much every way.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

There were no fragile little pins to hold it in so it lasted a lot longer

...except Apple made the housing and cable super fragile so they'd sell more "certified" cables. Phew, dodged a bullet there. Any excuse Apple ever made about Lightning falls on its face when you figure out how two-faced they are.

Sad thing is that I actually liked Lightning cables, a lot, but I liked them when they were made by decent manufacturers with braided cord and a sturdy connector.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Lightning cables are notorious for breaking. https://you-well.co.uk/why-apple-cables-break-so-easily-what-to-do/

So what is there left to say about it...that you don't have to look at the port before plugging a lightning cable in? Is that your justification for saying the USB standard sucked?

Most USB-C cables today are usb 2.0 still anyway so they have the same spec as Lightning.

Modern PCs have 3.0 ports. Androids have 3.0 ports. 3.0 cables are available at any online store. What the actual fuck are you talking about?

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I was a bit skeptical of your statement, because it FELT like they came out at the same time; but you are completely correct. The iPhone 5 with lightning was released Sep 2012, and the USB-C standard was published in Aug 2014. Almost exactly 2 years later. The first smartphone with USB-C didn't come out until a full year later, though. So lightning was more like 3 years ahead in the phone world.

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two years is like no time in the land of technology standards. Apple did not know whats going to happen in 2 years? Come on!

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The chargers are fine, but the old cables are now much less useful. The only thing left (I think?) that uses lightning are AirPods.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

AirPods, Mighty Mouse, Magic Trackpad.

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[–] Dracocide@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Landfill" Wouldn't it be best if you donate a cable or something if its in a good enough condition?

Better than just tossing it out, especially if some people don't upgrade every single release and would still like a cable.

[–] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Ya that’s dumb asf, especially if it’s just to charge the phone which the majority of people only need it for that.

Problem solved, I have usb c to lightning adaptor too anyone needs to borrow my cable to charge I can use it and so can they

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[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Previous iphone models are not gonna disappear over night, and there are hundreds of millions of them out there. People are still using iphone 6 and 7 till this day. Lightning cables and accessories are still gonna be made and sold for years to come.

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[–] revs@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

I’ll probably buy one or two of the lightning usb-c adapters to use for a while to allow charging when travelling without extra cables.

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