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Trying to build a pink case for the wife that's relatively future proof. No gaming, just web browsing, music (not production), YouTube, and ms office stuff.

The problem is that I've only built two machines and this is the first time I'm doing a color scheme. Im also stuck between DDR4 and 5. I don't think she needs the power but if I don't get the 5 now I feel like I'd have to replace the mobo if she needs to upgrade.

If theres any suggestions yall have to make it more compatible, more pink, cheaper, or more powerful without spending much more, please roast me on it (don't change the case though she's set on that).

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Should be good. 32 GB seems like a lot of RAM. DDR4 should be fine for a long time still. Even my "gaming" PC is plenty happy with DDR4 and I don't plan to change for a while.

I don't have specific recs for other parts, but I think monitor, speakers, keyboard, and mouse will be more critical components to pick carefully with your wife.

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

She already got the ducky one3 gossamer pink.
The peripherals I can handle but some of the compatibility stuff is over my head but I do my best. The RAM is pretty cheap so I figures why not blast it

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

By the time you want to upgrade anything, something else unexpected will be obsolete and you'll have to upgrade the motherboard anyway.

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

DDR4 it is!

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Tis the way.

[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I haven't run on integrated graphics in forever, so I was worried it might have awful performance, especially considering it's Intel

But it looks like things should be able to run at 720p at a reasonable framerate

https://artofpc.com/review/intel-uhd-770/

If you do decide to add a GPU later, you may want to consider upgrading the power supply at the same time. The rule of thumb I use is that the power supply should supply double the power that the machine is supposed to consume (Which you've already done here for the current build)

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

IGPU is fine for basic office work and normal web browsing. I use the IGPU on my 8th gen Mac mini just fine.

Plus if op gets a tame video card 600 watts is enough. The i5 isn’t as power hungry as the 200+ watt i7 and i9s

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Just commented about popping out my useless SLI and throwing one of my useless 1080s into this build

Also you think the integrated graphics would be fine for a 32in/large 4k monitor?

[–] moody@lemmings.world 4 points 4 months ago

If it's not for gaming or video editing/compression, the igpu will be plenty. That's what those are for.

If any 3d gaming is going to happen, you can add the gpu in, but that's an easy drop-in upgrade anyway. You can just stick it in there at a later time if you want.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago

If you switch to AMD G-series, the iGPUs are much more capable than their contemporary Intel counterparts. I did gaming solely on a 5600G while I waited for GPU prices to drop, and I was able to play the entire BioShock series, Halo Infinite, Prey, Savage Planet, and several others on medium settings, getting 45-55fps @ 1080p (32GB, DDR4 3666 C16).

I don't know about 4K, but I would think it's in the realm of possibility for a non-gaming target.

If my 8th gen Mac mini handles it just fine a 14th gen i5 will handle it just fine. My laptop has the same GPU and I can play a surprising amount of games pretty well on it.

The gtx 1080 would be overkill for just one monitor. Unless you're doing 3+ displays with lots of video skip the dedicated GPU and save the power.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You want to hear something wild? I've got a Ryzen 3600/GTX-1080 system that runs on a 450w power supply.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

3600 and the 100 are like peak efficiency. I had my 1080 undervolted so it used just under 180 watts, and even my 5800x3d used maybe 100 watts at any given moment outside of 100% load.

Honestly though a 450 watt power supply is probably just old/low quality at this point. I'd be more worried about the PSU blowing up randomly, than the PSU blowing up from being over loaded.

Yeah I kinda wish I hadn't done that. It's a Corsair SF450 small form factor PSU, they don't even sell it anymore.

I built this rig during the GPU shortage, I stole the GPU out of an old computer a relative was retiring. The CPU was chosen for TDP more than anything else, small form factor case without much room for heat sinks meant a power ceiling.

[–] 5oap10116@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I do have an extra 1080 from my now useless SLI. Think that'd work with this build and a ~800W± supply?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The 600 and 32GB seem like overkill unless you're future-proofing. I have a pretty solid data crunching and gaming rig (6800XT and 5900X with AIO, lighting, fans, and quite a few peripherals drawing USB power) running on 550 with 32.

Your screenshot is saying 258W est draw. Without a GPU, I'd expext 350W is more than fine. Big ballpark to play in, get those colours and cables good. 32 will help the IGPU maybe in gaming, but 16 (as 2× 8 DDR4) should be plenty. Don't forget to make sure the BIOS has them running at their proper speed! (Easy to Google)

Oh, and money saved, spend on CPU or consider 16 on a 450 with a lower end dedicated GPU. Otherwise, spend it on quality of life peripherals like wireless charger, nice mouse/keyboard or monitor, nice headphones or speakers.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

more pink

https://www.amazon.com/pink-computer-parts/s?k=pink+computer+parts

I personally really don't like PCs that light up, but some people do, and since you have a case with a window, which I assume means that you want to look inside, I guess you could put pink electroluminescent or LED strips in. I don't think that you're going to be using your PSU's Molex connectors for anything else. Looking at the case manufacturer's website, it appears to be steel rather than aluminum, so magnets should work on it.

https://www.amazon.com/LEDdess-Computer-Lighting-Magnetic-Connector/dp/B07PV9PZCD

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

It's funny to see my pc vs my fiancées. She has enough rgbs on to make her pc a lighthouse rave while mine is just a black box with only the ram being rbg, which I couldn't find any without rgbs in the timeframe I had. I just turned the light white and use it to peek into my box when I need to.

[–] timo_timboo_@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why are you going with the i5 though? It's absolute overkill for web browsing and office stuff. Or did I miss something in your post that explains the choice?

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree with this. Could easily save $200 buying some older and lower spec components. CPU choice is probably because of the iGPU, but there are other cheaper CPUs with iGPU. I don't think the use case is going to require more computing power in the future, so I don't know if future proofing is really necessary. If the use case changes some few years from now, you need to buy new components regardless of your choices today. Save some money now and put it towards a future upgrade.

16GB DDR4 is enough. That's about $40 off. SSD is pointlessly big for the use case. 250GB might be enough, but even 512GB would be a bit cheaper.

CPU could be downgraded to something a couple generations older. Motherboard can also be downgraded, unless that one has some important features. That saves at least $150 total.

PSU is a complicated question. Cheaper would be enough, but you might lose money over time in your electricity bill. That's kind of difficult to calculate.

[–] timo_timboo_@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That's basically what I was thinking. Maybe something like an i3 12100 would be a good choice, but that is also almost overkill. I'm personally using an 10100f, and that's not just fine for web browsing, but also gaming.

The PSU is also overkill I guess, but going with a quality PSU is a great idea nonetheless. But something like a 400W unit may be better suited for this built, since a PSU is going to be less efficient when it's just getting utilized about 20%. Even 400W may be too much.

[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you getting a black psu? It might not look great in that case, depending on how well you can hide it.

I got a white corsair rmx750 and it came with nice white cables too.

With no gpu, the cables will probably be well hidden, but add a gpu and the black cables will stand out.

[–] ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

This is a good point. Black PSU and motherboard might stand out too much in that light, white-ish case.