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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 131 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks like he...

🕶️

Dodged a bullet...

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Queue loud song by The Who...

[–] Retreaux@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 41 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Now I'm very curious. It looks like the question revolves around how, exactly, the police got a hold of the ammunition involved?

Did cops try to frame a guilty man?

Is Alec Baldwin the new OJ?

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 113 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The prosecution brought an envelope of bullets into the courtroom but had never notified the defense they had them. That would be a BIG fucking 'nope' in any court case.

Archive source

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's so fucking stupid it makes me question whether they intentionally tanked the case. This aspect of evidence disclosure is literally covered in My Cousin Vinny: https://youtu.be/uaoymfY9Kw0

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Now I’m very curious. It looks like the question revolves around how, exactly, the police got a hold of the ammunition involved?

Were you not 'very curious' enough to actually look at literally any of the real and active reporting on this before your comment?

There was no question as to 'how, exactly, the police got a hold of the ammunition involved' and it is a core fact among the details of why case was dismissed.

They even played the officer's bodycam footage of an early formal interview of the former officer that brought the bullets in as evidence (that the officer on the stand pitifully tried to pretend wasn't an interview) in which the prosecutor was present. The evidence was intentionally filed under another case number so it wouldn't be associated with Baldwin's case (or the Reed case that I believe was ongoing when it was actually brought in). And THEN, cherry on top, they also discovered while looking at the undisclosed bullet evidence in this court, despite the prosecutors claims that the bullets were not associated with the Rust set thus not counted as evidence, that there were matching bullets of the type that were on the Rust set.

Some link to this as the moment the case fully unraveled: https://www.youtube.com/live/0VEoEvcJNhE?t=28995s

Where the prosecutor has put herself on the stand and opened herself up to answering defense questions under oath: https://www.youtube.com/live/0VEoEvcJNhE?t=32578s

It's among the craziest prosecutorial malfeasance shit I've ever seen from a high profile, video recorded court proceeding. One prosecutor resigned and LEFT earlier in the day as things were unraveling, and then the prosecutor that was still there put herself on the stand as-a-prosecution-witness to give testimony about the bullets, which even allowed the defense to question her about witness statements that she called Baldwin a cocksucker, about witness statements that she called Baldwin an arrogant prick, and about witness statements that she would 'teach him a lesson'. In the context of a lawyer, putting oneself on the witness stand as a lawyer in the case, even as a prosecutor, is mental breakdown levels of personal desperation, even if they want to claim it was an attempt to preserve an appeal of the dismissal.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Glad he got off. I always thought it was bullshit that anyone would try to hold him accountable. The weapons expert, yes. The actor who was told the prop was safe, hell no.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Yes and no. The circumstances surrounding the death were… Not great. Evidence of Baldwin playing with the weapon, pretending to fire it, aiming it at cast and crew, etc… Plus there’s the whole “they were filming during a strike, and Baldwin (who was also the executive producer) went out of his way to hire an unqualified scab as a weapons master” part of things too.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The armouror was a scab? That's the first I'm hearing of that. Do you have a link?

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There were no details, what evidence was withheld?

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[–] sunzu@kbin.run 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Amazing how they handled their case properly for the wage slave and got a conviction too...

While here they mishandled the case for a rich parasite?

How does this always happen haha

Clown world

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago (10 children)

If they wanted to let a rich person walk free they could have simply refused to prosecute

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[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

In the article it mentions how the evidence came to light after her conviction. I don't know if that means her appeal changes because of this, but it seems to me like this evidence only affected Baldwin's case and how the prosecution handled it.

Expensive lawyers are better about using slip ups to get their clients free, but that doesn't mean that the only difference between the two was money.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's just baffling that even "fake guns" are so dangerous.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

They're not fake guns; they're real guns with what was supposed to be fake ammo. Because the gun in question was a revolver, the ammo must also look real since you can see the tips of the bullets in the cylinder. Typically, there's a hole in the side of the casing indicating that it's a dummy round, but you can no longer see that once it's been loaded into the gun.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Because the gun in question was a revolver, the ammo must also look real

I have seen so much bad science, like basic physics mistakes, in movies that that's not really true. The average movie goer isn't going to know what the difference between a fake and real revolver by sight.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Americans may not know our basic physics, but we know our guns you know.

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