You're blessed, I can't use a 60hz phone anymore after having one with 90hz.
If you don't think high refresh rate makes a difference, turn it to 60hz to save some battery and to not get used to it and end up with the same problem as me.
this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2023
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Just changed my phone to 160hz. I can't believe i used to live like a poor
I switch between 60Hz and 120Hz pretty often. And while I do notice a huge difference, it's not for long and I get used to it.
I was just playing with my wife's phone the other day. She has the pixel 6a, and I have the pixel 7. So they are extremely similar looking and feeling phones, except hers has a 60Hz screen and mine has a 90Hz screen. I thought the phone was broken. I was like, "why is the screen so choppy???"
Nah, some people just notice it more, some less. I always upset my friends when they show me their 165Hz monitors or their 4k screens and I'm like "Oh is it? I wouldn't have noticed." π€· Happens. In return I always notice immediately if an icon is badly or lazily made.
It wouldn't surprise me if some of them didn't actually set their monitor to 165 or whatever the highest might be. So many people talked about this back on r/pcmasterrace
I use a high refresh rate monitor and 60hz feels SO SLOW to me. I can't stand it.
Oh yeah, once you're used to it, it's hard to be satisfied with less
Honestly it's one of those things that aren't all that impressive at first glance, but if you use it for a while THEN go back to 60hz it hurts
Precisely this. I didn't notice it much when I started using it, but I switch between phones frequently for software development, and I definitely feel the difference. It's nice, but it's not a life-changing difference. It's just a difference.
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If you're not seeing it, you're not paying attention to the right things. I'm never going back to anything below 120.
Especially scrolling. It's really noticeable for those gestures which is pretty frequent on phones.
Had to scroll way too much to find this comment.
Seriously people, just try to scroll your app drawer after turning off 120Hz. It's jitter as far as the eye can see.
Yeah scrolling is where the difference really shows. Seems about what you'd want to optimize a smartphone for
I can easily tell when a phone is at 120Hz, but the difference in actual use is minor, and I keep it on 60Hz to conserver battery
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You'll only really notice it when things are moving and only when it's about 60+ frames per second. Otherwise, your display is just refreshing static objects more frequently. It will not have anything to do with quality of images. You might notice an increase in responsiveness since the screen refreshed sooner, but that is generally minimal.
The difference is massive to me but my parents struggle to notice, so it certainly varies person to person
I'm starting to worry it's an age thing, I'm near 40π
It's all downhill from about 25.
You'll start to notice it by 40-50.
Generally it is a slow, gentle downhill but it varies from person to person.
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There's a massive difference in smoothness between 60 and 120hz for me, even just scrolling you can tell straight away how deliciously smooth 120 is.
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I think in most cases it won't matter, and many people cannot perceive the difference.
But from my own experience I did the csgo sniper test map (where you look down to the doors and shoot the random npc players that will jump across).
While I didn't think it felt different I could consistently hit at more than twice the rate on 144hz vs 60.
After using 144hz for a while there is a more visible juddering when switching to 60. But it's not jarring or annoying.
So I'd say for most cases it doesn't matter. If you play fps games, there's a definite advantage to a higher frame rate. Unconsciously I guess you're able to use that extra info.
This isn't new either. I used to play Cs1.6 on crt. We'd often play on a lower resolution to get higher screen refresh. My screen would for example show 800x600 at 120hz.
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I went from 30fps to 120fps and I can't tell the difference
Edit: Now that I've experimented a bit more there definitely is a difference and 120fps feels nicer to eyes. It's nothing huge but noticeable
That's a bit extreme
60 to 120 Hz is definitely noticeable to me; when scrolling, it makes a big difference. When my phone auto-switches to low battery mode and to lower refresh rates I can usually tell the difference very quickly.
I still can't really tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps, so I run everything at 30 with higher settings. I feel like I'm winning.
Lol, I tried 30FPS cap in Genshin Impact and it became a stuttering mess
Please note as you go higher up in the framerate, the gains will be less noticeable.
There's some term for this phenomenon, but I forgot it right when I wanted to type it. (please tell me again!π)
After reading all the comments I'm thinking it really comes to what you're able to see. If you see no difference between 60 and 120, good for you, set it to 60 and save some battery. If you're able to see the difference, like I do, you'll just enjoy the extra smoothness. I've always seen the difference between 60 and 90/120. I think it also comes to the content. For me it's like this:
- For videos, whatever refresh rate is ok as long as that was the intent of whoever created it.
- For games 30 is playable, 60 is good, 120 is beautifully smooth. The type of game will also play a role here. An fps will benefit more from higher refresh rates.
- For moving UI elements 30 is unusable, 60 is ok, 120 is really comfortable.
TL;DR Some people will see it, some people won't. Do whatever works best for you.
I use mine at 90HZ and i can clearly see the difference
It's harder to notice the difference at first. When I first got my 144Hz monitor I had trouble distinguishing between the two, but now I can immediately tell (and it's made going back to gaming at 60fps really difficult lol).
If you keep using 120Hz mode, then after a while you'll definitely feel the difference between the two.
That said unless you game on your phone a lot, I don't know how useful it is to have it set to 120, especially if it drains more battery.
Even moving windows around looks and feels stuttery on desktop at 60hz, which is a pretty simple action. Basic desktop navigation I find more bothersome than 60 fps in a video game, since the system just feels and looks less responsive when it comes to animations and scrolling and moving stuff around.
I had to replace my old monitor that was 60 hz that I was intended to use as my secondary, since it was way too jarring having the two side by side. I avoided using the second one because of how suddenly it felt laggy entering that domain. Just the cursor movement looked bad.
After awhile at 120hz, use someone's 60hz phone, you'll notice it.
This is why I'm intentionally staying away from high-refresh-rate displays until I can feasibly upgrade everything I use to that standard (phone, TV+consoles, desktop monitors, etc). I don't know exactly what I'm missing out on and ignorance here is bliss.
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I remember on crt's there was a massive difference between 60hz and 85 hertz, but my laptop has a 120 hertz screen and I really don't see much of a difference between it and 60 hertz and it at 120 hertz, there is some work out there by some people that suggest that it's because the CRT is just structured in such a way that you're going to notice improved frame rates better and it's going to look less blurry to your eyes.
For me the biggest difference between 60 and 85 Hz on a CRT was that one gave me a massive headache and nausea within a few hours, and the other didn't.
Modern displays work differently though, especially LCDs which only really flicker if the backlight flickers. CRTs only display a small sliver of the image at any given time, while the rest is black or fading away until the next frame is drawn.
(Though I do see a big difference between 60 and 85 fps these days; 85-95 is where I start to find FPS games to not feel downright choppy, but there's still a big, big difference between 95 and 165.)
Higher refresh rates make a bigger difference when physically larger portions of the screen are changing at once, and when there's fast movement on the screen. That's why it has a more noticeable effect on FPS games, where the entire screen changes when you move the mouse, and when you want to quickly move your aim to specific points. It's much more noticeable on a large display than it is on a phone screen, for example.
Yes, indeed. But I find it very, very noticeable when just moving the mouse pointer too. Looks horrible on a 60 Hz screen.
The most important thing I think is movement speed. Extremely slow movements would look the same at 10 fps as 1000 fps (think a movement of 10 pixels per second, for example), while large movements look choppy at lower framerates. That's also (part of) why it's more important to have a high framerate in Quake/Unreal Tournament-style games than it is in e.g. first person puzzle games, latency being the other big one.
Are you viewing dynamic or static content? For me, the difference is huge with games, etc but harder to tell with static images.
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I find it notice it the most on phones, like a huge difference for me. Not as much on PC monitors though.
I turned mine from 120hz (default) to 60hz to save battery. Probably the only reason I noticed is because I knew it was 120hz. The battery hit wasn't worth the subtle difference.
I just went from 90Hz to 60Hz and it was noticably worse. Promptly went back to 90 lol.
In some cases I think it's actually worse. When scrolling through my code on 60hz, I can still read some words, because it's in the same place long enough. On 120hz, it's just a blur whilst scrolling, my eye can't focus on any words to read them.
For gaming it's nice because it reduces input lag, but when playing a game where the timing isn't that tight, it doesn't matter much.
Should be the other way around. Motion clarity goes up with refresh rate.
I'm not sure how would it matter either. But I'm not gaming much on my phone so maybe that's that.
on a phone for me its not a useful feature. i notice it mainly when scrolling. meh. its fine on 60hz imho. maybe if i did more gaming on me phone or whatever id care more but just watching videos and browsing the web its fine.
My phone supports 60Hz and 120Hz (nothing in between) and the difference is definitly recognizable.
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