Signal will soon be your one stop solution for all your chat apps
Fixed that for you.
this post was submitted on 11 Sep 2023
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Why is this being presented as "whatsapp will be the one and only" instead of "whatsapp won't be the only option"? The DMA will users to install nearly any chat app and chat with users from another chat app.
Where are you getting "the one and only" from? Are you misinterpreting "one-stop solution"?
What are you interpreting "one-stop solution" as?
The fact that iMessage got the exemptions underpins the entire act. I would any day switch to Signal, if there is 1:1 interoperability b/w the platforms.
@TheMadnessKing @floppy in Europe for most people iMessage is just the SMS app. Even though it pisses me off that Apple got away with it, having WhatsApp to comply with this is just huge. Everyone here uses WhatsApp, and now I won't be forced to leave Signal anymore.
iMessage is not considered a gatekeeper in Europe because pretty much nobody uses it. That's why it's extempted.
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Apple just claimed an exception. It's still up to the EU to determine whether it is actually exempt or not.
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It's because there's not enough people in the EU actually using it.
Nobody here uses it though
Yes. Thankfully.
It's really on American regulators to hold American companies accountable if they abuse their dominant position in the American market to the detriment of American consumers.
They got a exception because npbody uses that insecure garbage here, everyone uses Whatsapp tho so this makes a lot of sense!
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I can't wait for signal/session/simplex to be whatsapp compatible, but I'm not sure they can provided the e2ee gurantees since whatsapp is closed source.
I fear that Signal won't implement cross compatibility for WhatsApp since they already said that they are not a fan of potentially giving up E2EE to get it to work. And I can understand that but I still really would like to have the cross compatibility.
I hope Signal doesn't if it won't be E2EE. I like knowing that if it's in Signal, it's E2EE, and being able to tell less technically sophisticated people to whom I recommend Signal that everything in it is secure against eavesdropping.
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Signal and also lots of other privacy focused messenger-services (threema e.g.) already said the will not implement this forced interoperability since it will lower their already high standards regarding their users privacy. Sad but i guess it makes sense :(
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Signal interoperability
I support it but this doesn't sound legit
Odd way to spell Matrix.
Not a fucking chance!
It's weird. With every single app having a DM feature years before Whatsapp was even invented, with every single cell phone having email and SMS capabilities, and with a bunch of E2E encrypted apps already in service, why would I want to go back to Facebook's ecosystem in 2023?
Whatsapp worked on iPhone, Android, Blackberry and even some old ass java phones
They dominated the market in most countries or were close second to Messenger.
Now they keep growing and it doesn't give any chance to smaller better apps, this law makes it possible for you to use only signal but also chat to people that only use Whatsapp
When every single person you know uses Whatsapp, you have to use it too. That's what this law is about. So you can use other apps even if everyone else uses whatsapp
Eww no get that trash outta here
And this is where I wonder, how long until Matrix servers preemptively defederate from WhatsApp?
Probably won't. WhatsApp is already huge. Threads was a new platform with artificially inflated user numbers.
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Nice try, WhatsApp.
I setup my own matrix instance and ran a few bridges on it, so I don't need WhatsApp thanks
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Does anyone know what level of interoperability is required? Like basic text, pictures, emoji... or every feature including things like location sharing?
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Fuck that, fuck them they belong in the digital bin. I don't want WhatsApp to be able to connect to Signal or anything else. Sounds like a gigantic security risk.
"I don't want these Signal encrypted Matrix protocol messages on my Signal encrypted Matrix protocol messaging app, it's a gigantic security risk"
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I have a whatsapp because my dad wanted to be able to call me without international long distance fees. He's called once and I get endless amounts of spam. I'll be seeing him in a couple of weeks, and I can hopefully switch him to LINE (what everyone uses here) and get rid of this app for all and get the last cancer of Meta out of my personal life.
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Whoa this is bonkers! Would be great if all apps supported RCS as a fallback
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I wonder if WhatsApp is going to make a white list of compatible App or if they just open an API or document a protocol...
Anyway, I found it awesome.
If someone don't want to chat with a WhatsApp user it's always possible too.
I will finally be able to replace fucking SMS with a few people that simply won't switch to Signal, I simply won't use Whatsapp and that did cause some security issues till now!
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