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Apple forced to ditch iPhone lightning charger::Apple confirms new iPhone 15 will have a common USB-C charging port after EU forces it into the change.

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[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (9 children)

So funny seeing Apple fans eat up their PR. Ooh it was Apple's plan all along? They did it because it's more environmentally friendly? Yeah right and it only coincides the very same year EU is enforcing every manufacturer to go USB-C route. No one ever stopped to think if Apple is so environmentally friendly why were they fighting right to repair act.

And don't give me that "iPad had USB-C" speech. If lightning port could handle higher currents, iPad would have gone that route as well. USB has been standard for many years now but they have pushed so many different ports instead of going USB route. They don't care about anything else other than milking a bit more money from their users.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In my opinion, Apple's choice to reduce the number and variety of ports on their devices in order to sell more dongles was where mobile device enshitification began in earnest. Now my phone just spys on me and vomits ads constantly and I can't even plug in my fucking headphones.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They take ages to adopt great features that have existed on Android devices for years, and yet are THE leader of what corners to cut in the industry.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

We like to call it innovation here, innovative ideas to fuck everyone and get a bit of bonus for the ceo

[–] Cheez@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“iPad had USB-C”

Any argument they make for iPads having USB-C is moot because they are still selling Lightning iPads.

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[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, nothing could ever possibly top Apple's rejection of strain relievers on their cables. It's absolutely the perfect blend of their overrated design sense with their unerring corporate instinct for planned obsolescence.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also let us not forget Apple is the only laptop manufacturer whose laptops have failing SATA cables. I am yet to run into any laptop with drive cables failing.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 95 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thank fuck, the lightning charger is hot dogshit, IMO. Th lack of compatibility of iphone is annoying, particularly around how 3rd party charging cords won't work with their products sometimes.

I had an iphone for over a decade, and finally switched to android. It suits me better. I spend a lot less time thinking 'i should be able to do this' and looking for a workaround

[–] Killer@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Base model 15 will still only have usb 2.0 speeds.

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminder:
usb 2 is a 2001 standard

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Graphine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'll say this. For how much shit Steve Jobs gets, regardless of his personal life, he would never allow this shit to happen. That crazy bastard is responsible for getting rid of the floppy drive and pushing the industry towards USB 1.0 because he believed enough in it. That we would benefit.

You can find old forum posts of the original iMac launch and see how surprised and somewhat upset people are at this revelation. Now look where we are.

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[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Only good thing about Lightning was the connector itself, but USB-C is a much needed improvement. The speed thing though, that gets me, especially when non-flagship devices aren’t limited to 2.x speeds.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Three cheers for the EU! 🇪🇺

[–] 1980srobot@insaneutopia.com 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I find it odd that this is the only noteworthy feature in the new phone.

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pretty much all smartphones past few years have been incremental upgrades. Sometimes theres some gimmick but it really feels like we’ve reached a peak

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Fold/Flip were pretty big jumps in tech.

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk why you're being downvoted, its true. Folding screen technology has been pretty much the only major innovation in the phone space for a while now.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Folding is high on the “neato” scale but isn’t considered a major milestone because it’s really sort of a gimmick and in smartphone terms, is a small niche feature. Most people don’t want a thicker phone that can become a too-small tablet by slowly forming a damage crease down its screen.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember when people thought a front facing camera was niche.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You can say that about literally every feature. But folding has been around 5 years and isn’t becoming integral to every device. Front facing cameras were within 5 years.

Disagree, the technology is improving and the shapes of the phone are becoming more usable.

Anecdotally, i know a good amount of people who switched/want to switch off iphone to android specifically for folding phones. The form factor of the zflip/razr is a lot more usable for people who have small pockets or people who just think it's plain cool.

The "damage crease" isnt a huge deal, and most people upgrade after 3ish years anyway so as long as it can make it that far it won't matter to them.

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 3 points 1 year ago

and it was 5 years ago at least.

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[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

NOOOOOOO! This goes against their narrative that they chose to do it! How dare you!

The only thing Apple chose themselves was placing an artificial limit on the port.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Apple has confirmed its new iPhone will not feature its proprietary lightning charging port, after the EU forced it into the change.

The tech giant said that the iPhone 15, unveiled at its annual event on Wednesday, would use a USB-C cable as the "universally accepted standard".

The EU had told the tech giant to ditch its proprietary charging ports to make life easier for consumers, save them money, and help reduce e-waste by encouraging re-use of chargers.

But some experts questioned whether consumers would be prepared to pay the high price tags given the devices are not hugely different to their predecessors.

"Convincing users to fork out for these new devices will not be easy during a cost-of-living crisis," said Paolo Pescatore, analyst and founder of PP Foresight.

"Some will see the new features as incremental, [although] collectively they enhance the overall experience which is priceless among Apple's core user base."


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[–] maggio@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago
[–] owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

No one will ever miss you

[–] 99nights@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally the only 'new' thing with the 15

[–] Beowulf@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But, but... it's .3% faster!!!1!!

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's cold in here.

Has hell frozen over?!?

[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They're just going to try to make one that's ever so slightly better, and then patent it again

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Apple lightning cable it means. The charger still works fine

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as it still refuses to charge because of fluff in the port - take my money!

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