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[–] Arekdirithe@lemmy.world 104 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I remember when I was younger, having low unemployment was considered a good thing, universally desired it seemed. Only in late stage capitalism is it a requirement that we have people who can’t find a job so the working class doesn’t get too uppity.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More people are supposed to not have jobs, but at the same time, not be collecting unemployment or public assistance. So basically… go panhandle, live in a tent city, go to prison, or I guess just die is their suggestion.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they died or went to prison then unemployment would go back down. The truth is they have no intelligent solutions and their economic beliefs are all make believe.

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[–] stilgar@infosec.pub 19 points 2 years ago

This effect was analysed in great detail by Marx in the 19th century, so it's not a characteristic of late stage capitalism, just of capitalism.

His term "Reserve army of labour" refers to the unemployed.

Taking them as a whole, the general movements of wages are exclusively regulated by the expansion and contraction of the industrial reserve army...

From Capital by Marx

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_army_of_labour

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[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 75 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Someone should unemploy him, you know, to help his numbers.

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[–] OGKludge@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the face...

Repeatedly...

With a brick!

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Unemployment has to jump 40 to 50 percent, in my view. We need to see some pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around

What a fucking asshole! True "we need to show those uppity peasant who's boss" energy 🤬

[–] NoNotLikeThat@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sounds like he's mad he can't afford as many yachts.

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[–] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Employee and employer work TOGETHER. I would love to meet this guy in person, real let them eat cake energy. Anyway, where's my guillotine sharpener.?

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[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (3 children)

i think this guys face should meet a crowbar

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a weird way to spell guillotine

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 43 points 2 years ago

I hope this isn't a bannable comment, but someone needs to bring out the fucking guillotine for these fucks.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What is it with property developers and being brainless dicks?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People having been throwing shit on plots of land since the beginning of time. It probably scratches that sweet spot of little thought and a lot of money that most people seem to be after.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

“passive income!” when they talk to each other, but tons of hard work when described to anyone else.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

We should indeed have more unemployed people, since we should strive to a world where nobody has to work anymore.

Implement Universal Basic Income.

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[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Unemployment needs to jump 40-50%??? Is this guy seriously that utterly disconnected with reality? In Aus it’s never hit more than 12% in the last 4 decades, the economy would just collapse if unemployment got that high. It only got to 32% during the Great Depression in the US.

[–] joel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago

That's the difference between percentage and percentage points. If the unemployment rate were 5% then a 50% increase would make it 7.5%

An increase of 50 percentage points would make it 55%

[–] correcthorsedickbatterystaple@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

utterly disconnected with reality

is there another way to accumulate that amount of wealth?

having said that, if unemployment is 10% and he thinks it needs to jump (and not to be 50%) then unemployment would be at 15%

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[–] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 years ago

This is the original "stop eating smashed avocado on toast" guy.

This guy need to improve the planet by being a lot less alive.

About 100% less should do the trick.

I live in his city and I will not hesitate to tip my $6.50 latte over his narcissistic noggin, should the opportunity arise.

[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"We need to see unemployment rise," he argued. "Unemployment has to jump 40 to 50 percent, in my view. We need to see some pain in the economy. We need to remind people that they work for the employer, not the other way around... There's been a systemic change where the employees feel that the employer is extremely lucky to have them, as opposed to the other way around."

You love to see it.

Also, lots of comments about guillotines here. We might get some concern trolls about that, but at the very least, it sure is a problem when a billionaire like Tim feels like he can say something so outrageous without any consequences.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Funny thing that we witnessed in Iran: Violence is not the answer until the very hour it is.

Law enforcement in Georgia are attacking mutual aid stations. They're recognizing and harassing the non-violent methods we would affect change.

And the billionaires are telling us they'd have us starve if we refuse to live as bonded servants.

This is how civil wars start.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

The guillotine building industry has to jump to put these corporate dirtbags in their place

[–] wokehobbit@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can we bring out the guillotines already? Serious.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We should put arrogant CEOs in their place.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Preferably in front of a firing squad or in a guillotine.

[–] barttier@feddit.de 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rich people are loosing the fear of workers that was deeply ingrained in their DNA by the french. They should be afraid again. Maybe pinata economy is the most logic way to go.

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[–] beefcat@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Arrogant billionaire complains about having to operate in a free market. Oh the irony...

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago

i hate these greedflation causing piece of shits. complete and total arrogance. admiral klancy said it best

[–] Peddlephile@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

Lol. I actually read the article and it's Tim fucking Gurner.

I've got friends who work as consultants for his projects and it's more of a "do as I say" relationship. He buys up properties and then turns them into "luxury" apartments or hotels for his rich mates.

He's part of our affordable housing crisis.

And he goes on to make this statement. Good grief.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Unemployed Aussies should show up at his house.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Billionaire has to jump....

Off a cliff

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[–] vrojak@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

Pierre
Get the guillotine

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I really do think it's time to break out the guillotines.

[–] pizzahoe@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

These retarded rich fucks don't really understand that the only reason society is not killing them yet is because many people have a shitty job which can at least feed them. You take that away and motherfucker hungry people will revolt.

[–] HansSlonzok@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

as we know... good billionaire is dead billionaire

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But if you consider the counter-argument, maybe arrogant billionaires need to be reminded again that the deal by which they wouldn't be dragged out of their homes and beaten senseless in front of their families was that they'd pay a living wage and deal with unions and submit to antitrust regulations

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 years ago

As much as I bitch about Lemmy, I am glad to be on a platform where we can openly advocate to put the aristocracy in guillotines without getting banned or otherwise punished for it.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

We should seize all his shit

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago

Ok, lets start by labelling CEO's who don't do shit as "unemployed".

Next is every billionaire that don't pay the taxes they are owed.

[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

Some CEOs deserve to be fired... out of a cannon... at a brick wall... covered in large spikes.

[–] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Let's eat him first.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 11 points 2 years ago

The cruelty is the point.

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