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If you read "a scientist says", then that's not science.
edit: Oh it's kurzweil. Yes, definitely no science to see here.
Sounds like vapid bullshit, can't be arsed to read. Anyone got a slvbcbatr; on the article?
That's a very long acronym that I haven't seen before, nor can I guess what it means. Could you please expand it to quell my curiosity?
sounds like vapid bullshit, can't be arsed to read
I bet we can do it in three.
aBundleOfFerrets Says Humans Will Reach the Singularity Within 3 Years
Basically the same amount of weight as the headline.
21 is very specific
Neat. Just in time for the climate apocalypse.
The singularity is a fun idea, but it will never happen, because although technology has historically developed exponentially, we have reached a point where further progress is becoming harder, because limits of physics.
Obviously the hot thing right now is AI, but even if we nail that, it will not change the fact that there are limits of physics that slow down further progress.
Well, I read somewhere in the 1800s an official in a major patent office resigned because he believed there was nothing new to invent/patent left.
Might be we will look back at our time right now the same as we do at the 1800s at the brink of a technological revolution.
The "nothing more to invent" is an age old fallacy. And not at all what I stated.
Obviously there is still room for lots of invention, but the so called low hanging fruits are getting rarer.
If the goal is a fully automated society where we don't need to work, we have a long long way to go yet.
Current AI is already running into the limits. It can't find more data as it already consumed everything on the internet and needs more power for growth that is not available on the grid.
I agree, although LLM models are impressive in some ways, we seem to be hitting some pretty serious limitations of that model.
I'm sure better models will be found, and we will probably have occasional technology leaps in the future as we have had in the past. I just doubt they will continue to accelerate as they have done historically.
Personally I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't developed more since the 70's. I thought computer based automation would be much faster and better, and standard working hours would have been about halved around year 2000.
So I'm not that impressed, despite there have been some cool developments. But things take time.
PS: In the 70's fusion power was estimated by our physics teacher to be about 50 years away.
I remember it clearly, and I remember thinking as a teen, who the hell wants to work on something that will take 50 years?!
Now 50 years later, I'm not sure we are even half way there, and instead of cheap plentiful clean energy, we have climate change because we still use fossil fuels.
So again I'm not that impressed with where we are, compared to what I hoped and expected 50 years ago. And the more time passes, the further away a singularity seems to be. As in it's never going to happen.
we will probably have occasional technology leaps in the future as we have had in the past
Yes, every 10 years or so. That's been the norm.
So again I’m not that impressed with where we are, compared to what I hoped and expected 50 years ago.
You're not alone. The rate of innovation is indeed going down.
https://www.sciencealert.com/innovation-in-science-is-on-the-decline-and-were-not-sure-why
It's been argued too that because of the way funding and grants work, research goes after buzzwords, commercial interesting stuff and mathematical fiction instead of fundamental research.
I have never X'd harder in my life
I’m something of a scientist myself, I say we’ll reach it in 23 years.
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Trust the science