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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 84 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Cuz cops aren't here to help people, they're here to defend the wealthy's assests...

People have been learning this lesson for decades, it's just most people never have to interact with police outside a rare traffic ticket.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep - not u common in my shitass city these days for a couple cops to be posted at the doors of safeway, walmart, etc. full time. Me getting mugged by 5 tweakers in broad daylight? 8 hour response time. Homeless dude stealing bread to survive? Immediately arrested.

Meanwhile the police force complains that they need more money because they don't have enough resources to do their jobs... full 1/3rd of our civic budget already. Totally fucking useless, unless you're a big brand.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A lot of the time they're paid overtime rates by the company and not being paid by the city.

They're private security but still wear cop uniforms, drive cop cars, and often sit in their cars burning gas we pay for with taxes.

Businesses are fine paying it, because it's better than paying taxes for real policing and having to wait.

It's moving to full on privatized policing, gated communities do the same shit rather than pay taxes.

When this stuff happens, it never ends well for anyone, but often eventually results in sociatial progress once the ashes settle.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

A lot of the time they're paid overtime rates by the company and not being paid by the city.

That's true in Canada, except those hours worked are added to their union pensionable hours, so taxpayers are still on the hook.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

I know they're paid for by Walmart/whoever, but they should get actual private security that doesn't cost the taxpayer 300 grand to train and prepare for service. The police force can stop complaining about being understaffed too when they're playing rentacop.

Congrats officer you caught a guy stealing 2 loaves of bread and a $10 rotisserie chicken. Mind going to arrest the guy who committed an assault 2 blocks away just now?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

They're also not smart. The amount of work that goes into tracking target vehicles, syncing fake keyfobs, loading them into sea containers, and sending them on an international shipment to an overseas client in incredibe. This isn't being done by idiots. I can't imagine someone who got C's in highschool figuring out how it works or finding a way to stop it.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 74 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The circle remains unbroken: Police react with minimal investigation, numbers are logged. The insurance pays out and premiums are increased. There are ample thieves and buyers. The ports collect cargo fees, and many containers are unchecked when the vehicles are shipped away. The auto company makes and sells another vehicle. The politicians react. Some excuse the criminals and others excoriate the accused. They react and raise taxes.

This is the effect of crumbling institutions not the cause of it, although it reinforces the feedback loop. Keep shrinking the state by putting more of its functions into entities only responsible to their major shareholders and watch it get worse. It's been the program since the modern resurgence of market fundamentalism (neoliberalism).

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Headline blame shifting again. THE POLICE did nothing.

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

except end up in the Rock&Roll Hall of Fame!

[–] _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 years ago

Something similar happend to me in Connecticut. Some underaged kid driving her father's SUV backed into my car in a parking lot. She got out, apologized. I took a picture of her, the car and the license plate. She apologized to me and called her father who told her to get back in and drive home. It took the police 6 hours to respond, finally around 2am. They took the details and looked up the vehicle which had expired insurance. They went to the owners house, found the vehicle and knocked on the door. When no one answered (at 3am) they gave up, closed the case and told me to take it up with my insurance because they were understaffed. My insurance company tried using them for 6 months but eventually gave up as well as the police basically refused to help with anything other then the report.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Our car got stolen from out driveway in Waterdown. When we called the police they said:

Why are you calling us, call your insurance company

The neighbour's CRV was stolen 24hrs later. Police don't prevent crime they only punish those that police suspect of being a criminal (or people they just don't like). Cut their funding and put it into education, healthcare or transit.

[–] tarsn@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I work on a construction site. We have cameras everywhere. One night a bunch of guys came with a company truck and started loading up copper pipes and going through job boxes looking for tools. The police were called and they said they weren't going to come out because the guys might have weapons.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

Cut their funding and put it into education, healthcare or transit.

Police are not heroes, they are thugs to keep the proles in place.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I fully support citizens stepping in to fight crime if they are willing and able.

If you knew where your stolen property was, you should have automatic legal protection for whatever it takes to get it back.

It's crazy to have a taxpayer funded criminal and legal system that isn't working for them.

[–] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I 100% agree with this, but instead we have rulings like Khill.

Despite the government and courts discouraging it, I hope more citizens take matters into their own hands in ways that increase the actual risk to car thieves. Perhaps the government will start taking it seriously after that.

[–] smallpatatas@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The people stalking our neighbourhoods preying on people’s success

Interesting phrase there. Whole piece was definitely overblown, but this kinda gives away the game.

[–] texasspacejoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hypothetically, lets say i want my car stolen. Where should one leave it?

[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Canadian cops state, leave your keys by your front door to give thieves an easier time stealing your car! Help the little man!

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Unattended & engine running in a bad town, bad part of town.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like politically induced fud. Gonna skip the article.

But if I lived somewhere that had this problem I’d be wiring-in a kill switch somewhere. No punk is gonna take the time to track it down especially if well concealed.

[–] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not even that, just pull a critical fuse or two.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

But that usually requires digging around taking stuff out and putting it back in either under the hood or down by your ankles. Inconvenient in the dark or bad weather. Can flip a concealed kill switch on/off in a second from inside.

[–] Fullyloadedsnowflake@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Aww, this is so adorable 🥰