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[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That chiropractic care is not evidence based

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For people who don't know, the theory of chiropractics is that the light of God somehow shines into the human body through the top of the head, travels down the spine, and on through the nerves. If you can just fix any blockages (aka "subluxations") in that flow then it will be impossible for disease to exist in the body. Because God's light.

The founder of chiropractics was told this information by a ghost.

I know some people swear by chiropractic adjustments, but this is information I wish I'd known when I had my back injury because going to a chiropractor set my recovery back by at least three years. And the money I lost to that quack could have paid for not only the legit physical therapist that actually got me feeling better, but probably a decent massage chair too.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Wow, I knew chiropractors were quacks, but I didn't know it was this bad. Thanks for sharing this; I'm sorry that you didn't have this information when you most needed it.

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends on what you mean by that. PTs can use chiropractic techniques to great effect.

But there is a MASSIVE difference between an actual PT that sometimes uses specific chiropractic techniques and the con artists who try to shake your down for weekly neck cracks.

[–] someacnt_@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought PT was chiropractic.

[–] LockheedTheDragon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

PT is evidence based, chiropracty is woo. PT goal is to get you better and stop PT or teach you how to do it on your own. Chiropractors want you to come back for the rest of your life.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I've been cracking my own neck and back since I was 14/15, never had to pay for fake doctors

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All rich people became rich because people like you and me are paying more for services and things than they're truly worth, which means we pretty much never get our money's worth even when we feel like we do.

There are no good rich people.

[–] Omodi@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Most rich people became rich because their ancestors got paid a surplus.

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That the "give heroine to pregnant women and cigs to kids" era of the 18-1900s is the same as the "artificial food additives and lab grown meat" of today

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is in lab grown meat that you reckon is harmful?

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most notably the fact that it grows so quickly by utilizing cancer cells, also that this is the exact same scenario as the cigarette epidemic, no one knows what exactly are the side effects since this has never been done before. Also it's ironic how most people stay away from preservatives and artificial chemicals because "theyre bad" but will happily down man's attempt at playing god

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the actual difference between a cancer cell and a normal cell, aside from the fact that cancer cells don't kill themselves? Is cancer from a cow transmissible to humans?

People knew the effects of tobacco for centuries, actually. But also, it became widely known as soon as it started being widely investigated. I have the same argument about vapes all the time. Within like 2 years cigarettes went from being something prescribed by doctors to something that everyone knows gives you cancer. When something is as heavily scrutinized as vapes or lab-grown meat, you can be damned sure the effects will be widely understood within a couple of decades

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's the actual difference between a cancer cell and a normal cell, aside from the fact that cancer cells don't kill themselves

You answered your own question

Is cancer from a cow transmissible to humans?

Who knows? What's the whole point. Were playing god without knowing the consequences.

People knew the effects of tobacco for centuries, actually

Wrong. Doctors lied about it for years when it first came out and long after

Within like 2 years cigarettes went from being something prescribed by doctors to something that everyone knows gives you cancer.

Again, wrong. Early warning signs didn't show up until the late 50s by then it had been 20-30 years to late. And Dr. Luther Terry didn't come in for another 14 after that in '64. Even despite this evidence, the tobacco industry went to massive lengths to discredit the research and downplay the health risks by funding biased research, launched propaganda campaigns, and used public relations strategies to create doubt. It wasn't until '98 that the Master Settlement Agreement came into effect. A whole 68 years before they paid for their crimes.

When something is as heavily scrutinized as vapes or lab-grown meat, you can be damned sure the effects will be widely understood within a couple of decades

Decades? You mean the 7+ decades it took for tobacco? After which everyone had died already? Idk about you but I'm not waiting 10-20-30+ years to find out if I get a new disease named after me.

The fact is people who advocate for this shit don't understand science and just believe what their told to, just like what everyone believed when big tobacco ran those propaganda campaigns for 70 years, or what some still believe about global warming from big oil's propaganda campaigns.

Just because we don't know something today doesn't mean it doesn't exist, humans arent as smart as we give ourselfs credit. And just be we did it in the past, doesn't mean we've learned from those mistakes because clearly you all are still buying the shit they feed you and begging for more.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wrong. Doctors lied about it for years when it first came out and long after

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Counterblaste_to_Tobacco

Some doctors may have been wrong, but that doesn't mean nobody knew cigarettes were dangerous. I'll save my time and assume that if you're this unabashedly wrong about this, you're probably as unabashedly wrong about everything else too

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, Ignoring quite literally the entire commet and using a "nuh huh" argument. Classic bootleg reddit user tactic

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm ignoring it because you don't really have anything to say besides "we don't know what the health effects of lab grown meat will be" when it's quite literally exactly the same as normal meat. It's like complaints about GMOs. The process of producing it may be different, but the physical material that you consume is literally identical on a chemical level. It's nothing like cigarettes.

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

"Nuh uh"☝️

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Genders aren't real. Stop bothering me with how you think people should act regarding their ugly bits. I don't need to know about your sex life and how proud you are for the way you get your happy sensors wiggled.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ooooh that's a controversial one, good job! 👍

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It shouldn't be. If gender roles are bad, and it's not about genitals, what the fuck else is left for the words? There's no physical or metaphysical meaning to apply.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know it shouldn't be, I'm just mentioning that it's controversial because there's some pretty obvious stuff that people mentioned as a reply to the original question.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago

You cannot achieve any good by hurting people.

People are so convinced that if we're more cruel to criminals, they'll stop committing crimes, or if we're harsher to workers, we'll work harder, or if you're tough on border controls, immigrants will go away. It does not work and it cannot work.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That you need to wash your hands after going to the bathroom. I’ve seen too many grown men walk straight out of the restroom after urinating.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trans woman here, I've seen both sides.

A small percentage of the men's room washes their hands and a small percentage of the women's room DOESN'T wash their hands. It's a night and day difference.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Is this the real reason why we have longer lines in the bathroom? In addition to having to finagle several layers just to pee?

[–] Chaos0f7ife@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I feel so nasty if I don't wash my hands after using the bathroom.

I'm not a germaphobe, but I refuse to touch bathroom handles. I will grab a paper towel and use it to turn on and off the faucet and open the bathroom door.

[–] ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago)